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Message started by Yadda on Oct 30th, 2008 at 11:44am

Title: Takfir, being declared apostate
Post by Yadda on Oct 30th, 2008 at 11:44am
Allah's law declares that muslims, must never knowingly kill another [devout] muslim.

"......If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.092
v. 92 & 93



Huh!!!???

But what about all of those instances of muslims, killing other muslims?

Well, there is the doctrine of Takfir.

[ISLAM is dualistic,.....ALWAYS.]



Takfir == declared apostate, a person who can be legally killed by muslims.
....Similar in consequence to being declared 'Outlaw', in Old English Law.
....i.e. a person declared an 'outlaw', was unprotected by English law.


And likewise within ISLAM....

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11

Google..... wiki Takfir apostasy



EXAMPLES

News reports,

October 1, 2007
Imam shot dead the day after he spoke out against Islamic jihadists
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018328.php


January 7, 2008
Eight peace-seeking tribal elders shot dead by jihadists in Pakistan
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019482.php

May 14, 2008
Afghan teacher shot dead after speech condemning suicide bombings
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/021017.php
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/14/asia/AS-GEN-Afghan-Teacher-Killed.php



+++++


From Hadith.....

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.260

From ISLAMIC law texts....

Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."....
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus3_50.html#3.110


Did you get that?...
If a person is an EX-muslim, ".....his blood may legally be spilled."

That, is a *legal sanction* within ISLAM, for any muslim to execute all EX-muslims they come across.

And according to ISLAMIC law, a muslim is innocent in such an action [killing an apostate].

Why????

Because, all devout muslims are innocent.

And, everyone else [all non-muslims], are 'guilty'.
......and,  ".....his blood may legally be spilled.", by a muslim.








Title: Re: Takfir, declared apostate
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 30th, 2008 at 11:48am
oh, hence they should be deported from Aussie.


Abu and lestat - got any comments??
Any deflections? rhetoric questions ??



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