http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=12865&size=A


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Over the week-end Muslim fanatics target a Christian school in the capital’s east side. Police evacuate the institute to protect students. Hundreds of police agents are now guarding it to prevent further violence. Jakarta (AsiaNews) – Police evacuated the Christian Theological Arastamar Institute (STT SETIA) which is located in an eastern district of the Indonesian capital after it suffered damages during clashes between Christians and Muslims over the week-end. At least 1,500 students were moved to nearby police headquarters and a local Christian-based political party. The situation remains critical and further violence between opposite factions cannot be ruled out. “The school foundation urged us to intervene to protect people,” said East Jakarta District Police Chief Senior Superintendent. “For this reason we moved everyone out.” Last night hundreds of residents from the village of Kampung Pulo had taken up arms threatening to storm the school after being instigated by an imam at a local mosque who claimed that a bunch of Christian gangsters were coming to “protect” the school after it was attacked on Saturday by a Muslim mob, causing damage to the building and hurting hundreds. In an attempt to solve the problem East Jakarta District Chief Murdani held a close door meeting with the warring parties to discuss the issue. At the same time though, he said that police would conduct a thorough investigation and check if the school’s legal status was in order and that it respected all building regulations. In case of violations he would issue orders to demolish the unlawful structures. At present hundreds of agents are guarding the school and have orders to stop any act of violence and disarm people. The Arastamar High School for Theology and Biblical Studies, locally known as STT SETIA, was established by Rev Mathew Mangentang in 1987. The SST SETIA has more than 29 branches school across the country. In Jakarta alone it has thousands of students, including tens who were injured in latest clashes. Tensions between Christians and Muslims flared up on Saturday following rumours that a SETIA student had stolen a motorcycle that belonged to a Muslim from a neighbouring village. Senny Manafe, a spokesperson for the school, rejected the accusation, claiming instead that the attacks were triggered by a trivial incident. In an attempt to chase a mouse in the street, a student threw a slipper against a house owned by a local Muslim. Outraged by the deed, the latter kicked and punched the student as people gathered drawn by the rumour that a Christian student had tried to steal the Muslim’s motorbike. “Many students suffered various injuries to the head. Others were burnt by Molotov cocktails,” Manafe said. The violence and charges against SETIA are the work of Risman Hadi, chairman of Muslim Brotherhood Forum of Kampung Pulo Village, who in the past opposed the opening and continued existence of the Christian institute.

they might have been upset about this..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4135706276167925924

This is not the majority of Muslim sentiment in Jakarta. It looks more like the work of Islamist who promotes the rise of Shariah in Indonesia. They are getting more and more bolder in their attempts in attackingnon-Shariah institutions. The fear that with the ruling by the Indo govt against Ahmadiyya it would set a precedence against other religions within Indo.

Any reprobate who chooses to promote sharia law should be stoned. :D

That 1,500 Islamists, in effect, feel confident enough in their power, to openly attack a school, is cause to worry, if you are a non-muslim in the area.

These raving religious rioters are always violent, and always irrational, a dangerous combination.

People need to stop saying it is just a minority, and face the fact that Islamic extremism is a fast growing cult, with very evil intent.

It would be interesting to see how the mainstream society views these groups. Do they deride them the same way we deride scientologists, hillsong etc?

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That 1,500 Islamists, in effect, feel confident enough in their power, to openly attack a school, is cause to worry, if you are a non-muslim in the area.

how bout change the words '1500 islamists' to "the us air force" , or "israelis"......and the victim to "muslim" instead of non muslim, then the sentence holds much more malice...and historical FACT....

Imp

You talk like a kid who has never been the first to get anything right, and it pisses you off.
Now you are jumping onto any conspiracy theory, just praying that one is proved, and then you will have a whole bucketful of "I told you so's" to hand out.

Healthy skepticism is a very good thing, but to be skeptical about the totality of the truth in one person's version, does not mean you need to accept that the complete opposite must therefore be the real truth.

Argue with FD for a while, and you will begin to question the truth of your own existence. ;D

mazzoak. inferiority isnt one of my complexes.....

and....would you like to total the hospitals bombed by the yanks and israelis compared to those bombed by the total muslim population of the world...? and the gold medal goes tooooooo. THE U.S. OF A !!!!!
SILVER GOES TO THE ISRAELIS, BRONZE TO THE POMS.....

You are working from the mistaken assumption that the people you have been arguing with a pro US, and accept US propaganda as the complete truth, that is certainly not the case for any of the people I have seen responding to your posts, although there are some who buy the whole "bring democracy to Iraq" crap, but they post here infrequently and erratically.

We do not have to be pro US cheerleaders to accept that Islamist supremacism is a huge driving factor in the US's justification of their incursions into the middle east, but that does not equate to the same thing, as saying, Islamist extremism is not a very real and great threat to peace and stability in the whole world.
Just as you recognise the threat of Neo-conservative imperialism as a force for evil, most of those you are arguing with, would also.

It does not have to be all or nothing, shades of grey, come into play.

mozzaok wrote on Aug 18^th, 2008 at 8:37am:

You are working from the mistaken assumption that the people you have been arguing with a pro US, and accept US propaganda as the complete truth, that is certainly not the case for any of the people I have seen responding to your posts, although there are some who buy the whole "bring democracy to Iraq" crap, but they post here infrequently and erratically. We do not have to be pro US cheerleaders to accept that Islamist supremacism is a huge driving factor in the US's justification of their incursions into the middle east, but that does not equate to the same thing, as saying, Islamist extremism is not a very real and great threat to peace and stability in the whole world. Just as you recognise the threat of Neo-conservative imperialism as a force for evil, most of those you are arguing with, would also. It does not have to be all or nothing, shades of grey, come into play.

sort of shade of grey...more like black gold, texas tea.....

mozzaok wrote on Aug 18^th, 2008 at 8:37am:

You are working from the mistaken assumption that the people you have been arguing with a pro US, and accept US propaganda as the complete truth, that is certainly not the case for any of the people I have seen responding to your posts....

Who's pro US?!! Let me beat them with a stick!

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