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Message started by mantra on Mar 15th, 2008 at 12:18pm

Title: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 15th, 2008 at 12:18pm
Most of us write into forums because we enjoy it and we trust those controlling the forums.  Ozpolitics has a forum moderated by a person who believes he has the right to manipulate and change a persons post.  Even on request - Deepthought has refused to delete a post and continually rewritten my post in his own words.

Is this how a decent forum should be run?  Does a person have the right to ask for his/her post to be deleted by the moderator, but instead have the request ignored and fraudulently rewritten in the moderator's own words.

Deepthought - you may believe you are a good moderator - but you are breaking all forum rules by your actions.  Whether or not you are trying to destroy Freediver's credibility is another matter - but you have no right to humiliate any poster publicly by using their name to reproduce your posts.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 15th, 2008 at 3:20pm

mantra wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 12:18pm:
Most of us write into forums because we enjoy it and we trust those controlling the forums.  Ozpolitics has a forum moderated by a person who believes he has the right to manipulate and change a persons post.  Even on request - Deepthought has refused to delete a post and continually rewritten my post in his own words.

Is this how a decent forum should be run?  Does a person have the right to ask for his/her post to be deleted by the moderator, but instead have the request ignored and fraudulently rewritten in the moderator's own words.

Deepthought - you may believe you are a good moderator - but you are breaking all forum rules by your actions.  Whether or not you are trying to destroy Freediver's credibility is another matter - but you have no right to humiliate any poster publicly by using their name to reproduce your posts.


It's your post dude.  Where I have added the word 'fart' as I said I would (don't complain you weren't told) I have stated the word was added by a mod.  It doesn't get much clearer dude.

However the fact remains that you don't have the facility to delete your posts in any thread.  Why do you think you should have it in one forum only?

Why not accept responsibility for yourself (you made the post), why not refrain from posting just to complain (if the topic is of no interest don't read it like other adults) and why not start topics which interest you if farting doesn't (the forum has ample space for your puritanical tyranny).

Don't start reading malice into everything - it only displays your distrustful leftard roots.  Rightys enjoy fun - it is a light hearted thread for people who are tolerant and have senses of humour.  If you are neither feel free to stay away from the thread.

People bitching destroys forums - if you have nothing to say but complaints then go to a forum where there is no fun.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 4:34pm
Is this how a decent forum should be run?  

I didn't hear you b!tching when Oceans was deleting all and sundries posts at any opportunity.

You have got to be the biggest hypocrite around Mantra- you show more of your true self everyday. It's rather distasteful.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:07pm

IQSRLOW wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 4:34pm:
Is this how a decent forum should be run?  

I didn't hear you b!tching when Oceans was deleting all and sundries posts at any opportunity.

You have got to be the biggest hypocrite around Mantra- you show more of your true self everyday. It's rather distasteful.



Every opportunity? Rubbish.!

In my own defence I was only deleting offensive posts as I saw fit[ a lot of pple cruise thru in guest mode]..I deleted some if IQs nasty stuff [ and you know IQ you got very nasty sometimes..DT and I  have different styles of moderating obviously. I did overdo it a bit tho. hey i was new to moderating.

I dont think it is a true Relationships Forum as it stands at present..but it is of interest to some obviously...I do get a laugh out of it sometimes... but then I laugh at some stupid things I must confess...so thats doesnt mean much

I think we should not be too hard on Mantra -she doesnt deserve it..She values her right to post and hates to see anything that jeapordises  thats freedom. [ theres that word again.]

We should all be more tolerant of each other in general. There would be no more problems if that were the case.

Deepthought is fine.

Mantra is fine.

We're all fine.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:39pm

Quote:
I didn't hear you b!tching when Oceans was deleting all and sundries posts at any opportunity.


As a matter of fact I did IQ - obviously you've got a selective memory,  but I didn't post here much at the time, so obviously didn't see everything that was going on.  Although what I saw was mainly inappropriate and if Auz_gurl deleted those posts she answered to the consequences.  Did she alter your posts by the way IQ?  No only you and DT alter the words of others.

DT - I couldn't give a stuff whether you demanded I write something in particular - you're not a lawmaker.  Yes I shouldn't have posted on your crass thread - my mistake, but I still requested you to delete my post, which you didn't.

You had no right to misuse my post in the manner you did.  I had every right to say what I thought - I wasn't being abusive - I found the thread offensive and it was my right to say so.

As a moderator,  and at my request - your duty was to delete my post - but instead you altered it to suit your own agenda leaving a misleading and inappropriate (by my terms) post on there under my name.

Quite frankly IQ & DT your opinion means nothing as far as whether you think I have a sense of humour or not, obviously I do at times, but WHEN IT SUITS ME.  If you two want to roll in the gutter together by all means do, just don't drag me into it.

Yes DT - maybe I shouldn't post here and I doubt I will for much longer if your behaviour as moderator is condoned by the administrator of this forum.  You shouldn't even be a moderator - you have no sense of fairness generally and have an obsessive nature.


Quote:
Why not accept responsibility for yourself (you made the post),


Is this a rational statement?   Obviously I would accept responsibility for my post if you hadn't changed it fraudulently, so it no longer consisted of my words.  


Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:56pm
I'll do you a favour DT.  Could you please delete my post as requested, promise not to alter any others of mine on the Relationship Forum and I will not write back in here.  Obviously I can't deal with this ganging up mentality, but I don't want to leave any of my posts up that are not my words.


Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:02pm

mantra wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:39pm:

Quote:
I didn't hear you b!tching when Oceans was deleting all and sundries posts at any opportunity.


As a matter of fact I did IQ - obviously you've got a selective memory,  but I didn't post here much at the time, so obviously didn't see everything that was going on.  Although what I saw was mainly inappropriate and if Auz_gurl deleted those posts she answered to the consequences.  Did she alter your posts by the way IQ?  No only you and DT alter the words of others.

DT - I couldn't give a stuff whether you demanded I write something in particular - you're not a lawmaker.  Yes I shouldn't have posted on your crass thread - my mistake, but I still requested you to delete my post, which you didn't.

You had no right to misuse my post in the manner you did.  I had every right to say what I thought - I wasn't being abusive - I found the thread offensive and it was my right to say so.

As a moderator,  and at my request - your duty was to delete my post - but instead you altered it to suit your own agenda leaving a misleading and inappropriate (by my terms) post on there under my name.

Quite frankly IQ & DT your opinion means nothing as far as whether you think I have a sense of humour or not, obviously I do at times, but WHEN IT SUITS ME.  If you two want to roll in the gutter together by all means do, just don't drag me into it.

Yes DT - maybe I shouldn't post here and I doubt I will for much longer if your behaviour as moderator is condoned by the administrator of this forum.  You shouldn't even be a moderator - you have no sense of fairness generally and have an obsessive nature.

[quote]Why not accept responsibility for yourself (you made the post),


Is this a rational statement?   Obviously I would accept responsibility for my post if you hadn't changed it fraudulently, so it no longer consisted of my words.  

[/quote]


I say.  I expect you will realise you are a bit hypocritical calling me obsessive?  Who's the dude who has posted a bunch of posts complaining about a fart thread which clearly spelled out it was a fart thread, and who's the dude who even complained in the fart thread that what was said would happen, actually happened?

If you don't like the thread an adult would not have posted in it.  Have you seen me posting in threads complaining about the thread I am contributing to?  If the thread is of no interest to me I have the option to be an adult and let those who are interested in it enjoy it unmolested.

And farting is not exactly in the gutter.  Do you fart?  Does anyone you know fart?  Are you aware of what a fart is?

And if you choose to resist posting because someone posted a thread about farts and you spat the dummy perhaps you should.  Perhaps you need a forum you can dictate to.  A forum where people have to do what you say. Is there a Greeny forum especially for people with God complexes?

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:02pm
Then you should have read the title of the the thread and the post made by the moderator of the forum before you posted.

It's plain to anyone who reads it what has been added-

Accept responsibility for posting one of your whining rants in a thread that was clearly marked and learn to live with your mistakes- Voting left would be one and this would be another....tough bikkies

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:03pm

mantra wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:56pm:
I'll do you a favour DT.  Could you please delete my post as requested, promise not to alter any others of mine on the Relationship Forum and I will not write back in here.  Obviously I can't deal with this ganging up mentality, but I don't want to leave any of my posts up that are not my words.


No. Take responsibility for your actions and the consequences.  It's character building.


Incidentally stop being hypocritical, you said this


mantra wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:39pm:
- I wasn't being abusive -



But you also said this


mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:04am:
- not with idiots like you -


Now unless you call your family and friends idiots I suspect you used "idiots" as an abusive term.  Stop being immature mate, it's unseemly in a grown up.  But you have proven your leftard roots.  You have proven me right.  I told you that in my experience leftoids inevitably resort to insult and you disagreed.  I'm right aren't I.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:20pm

mantra wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 5:56pm:
fart


:D

[Jim Carrey]Somebody stop me[/Jim Carrey]

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:28pm
DT - you're a bully - plain and simple.  Say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned and no doubt others who read this - you are being allowed to harrass posters and get away with it.

I did not liken you to an idiot until the 3rd time you made alterations to my post.

If that's the worst that has been said to you, then you are lucky.  

Your attitude is very intimidating DT - whether you're aware of that fact or not.  No-one should feel this helpless on a community forum and post something and then have it changed without permission.  Obviously you've had a free reign here for a very long time - to do whatever you want, say whatever you want, monopolise these forums with pages and pages of useless, repetitive quotes and unsubstantiated material - even fraud.  You don't even wait for an answer from anyone before you proceed with your multiple posts. 10 posts from DT to every response.

I am not taking responsibility for something that I didn't say.  You are a serious liability to Ozpolitics.

Title: Re:Freediver Help......
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:30pm
DT-
Mantra is one person who places pride in her posting...its very important to her what her words convey, this is WHY she is upset.
She took a chunk out of me once  for moderating a bit too heavily [ taking offensive posts and a couple of hers with it] and I realised straight away that I ought to think before I tampered with the written word of another poster.

If you plagerise or have less than the utmost respect for the work of another person ,in the real world you will be penalised for it.
You who considers your self an educated man..ought to know at least that much.

You ultimately have no right to tamper with the work of an another person.[ even if it is in fun..not everyone sees it the same way]

Thats just the way it is Im afraid.

Ill say no more but thats how I see it. You know Im right.


Freediver you need to inetervene here.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:38pm
The only serious liability I see here is you Mantra because you fail to read the written word and you fail to take responsibility for your own actions.

Maybe you should try and learn from your obvious failings rather than trying to change the rules to suit yourself and place the blame on the moderator when clear rules were set out from the beginning?

Are you dyslexic or retarded? Maybe that would be ok for DT to delete your post on compassionate grounds?

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:42pm

mantra wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:28pm:
DT - you're a bully - plain and simple.  Say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned and no doubt others who read this - you are being allowed to harrass posters and get away with it.

I did not liken you to an idiot until the 3rd time you made alterations to my post.

If that's the worst that has been said to you, then you are lucky.  

Your attitude is very intimidating DT - whether you're aware of that fact or not.  No-one should feel this helpless on a community forum and post something and then have it changed without permission.  Obviously you've had a free reign here for a very long time - to do whatever you want, say whatever you want, monopolise these forums with pages and pages of useless, repetitive quotes and unsubstantiated material - even fraud.  You don't even wait for an answer from anyone before you proceed with your multiple posts. 10 posts from DT to every response.

I am not taking responsibility for something that I didn't say.  You are a serious liability to Ozpolitics.



A bully?  I did what I said I would do and you haven't stop complaining since nor once taken responsibility for your actions.

Here, try this.   Did you see the post which said if you do not use the word 'fart' I would add it for you?

Did you see that all I did was add the word 'fart' to the post exactly as I said I would?

And did you see that immediately after that single added word I also added a statement saying the word was added by a mod?

Once you answer those you will see you have lost touch with the reality of the fact that this is an internet forum and you are doing your block about one simple word.  Nothing in your post was removed - the only thing added was exactly what was said would be added.

Tell me again - and this time explain it because name calling is very immature (unless you belong to the Greens)  - why I am a bully for doing what I said I would do without subterfuge or deceit?

If anyone here is bullying it is you - you are the one making threats and blaming Ozpolitic's problems on me.  Do you see the irony of your hypocrisy?

Title: Re:Someone's lost the plot
Post by deepthought on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:46pm

wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 6:30pm:
DT-
Mantra is one person who places pride in her posting...its very important to her what her words convey, this is WHY she is upset.
She took a chunk out of me once  for moderating a bit too heavily [ taking offensive posts and a couple of hers with it] and I realised straight away that I ought to think before I tampered with the written word of another poster.

If you plagerise or have less than the utmost respect for the work of another person ,in the real world you will be penalised for it.
You who considers your self an educated man..ought to know at least that much.

You ultimately have no right to tamper with the work of an another person.[ even if it is in fun..not everyone sees it the same way]

Thats just the way it is Im afraid.

Ill say no more but thats how I see it. You know Im right.


Freediver you need to inetervene here.


Aren't you the one who modded with gay abandon and deleted posts all over the shop?  Just what are you talking about Oceans?

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:15pm
FD- you are a completely biased tool

I am disgusted with the way you have removed Mantra's post where she displays her arrogance and ignorance and you have done nothing but add to it.

You peas of the same ignorant pod

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:20pm
freediver you display all the characteristics of the lefty tyrant.  You also allow the bullys to bully you into interfering in the freedom of the user run boards.

As an advocate of freedoms I suspend myself in protest.

You should join the Greens.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by freediver on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:29pm
you're opinion has been noted and will be taken into consideration

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:31pm
Consideration should be taken before action- I hope you really don't have any plans for politics after this sordid display

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:32pm
DT says.."



"deleted post all over the place.."

Yes and I said as much..But if I  unduly upset a poster with my actions..I would try to remedy same.

This has gotten all a bit blown out of proportion for heavens sake.

Calm down everyone..

No need for self suspension etc..anyone out thhheeeerrrreee?????/

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:40pm
It displays the tyranny of the left in trying to first stymie a light hearted discussion then to demand action (and of course receive it from the leftist forum establishment) when the rules were clearly stated.

I hope this serves as a warning to all what the left are truly about...tyranny, dictatorship and to acquiesce to the minority at the expense of the majority when the minority cannot follow the rules simply stated, so they insist that the rules are changed to suit themselves.

It is disgusting...

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 4:02pm

deepthought wrote on Mar 15th, 2008 at 8:20pm:
freediver you display all the characteristics of the lefty tyrant.  You also allow the bullys to bully you into interfering in the freedom of the user run boards.

As an advocate of freedoms I suspend myself in protest.

You should join the Greens.


I'm back and I want to thank everyone who also suspended themselves in protest at the tyranny of the leftard.  It seems no one posted at all today apart from Oceans keeping an eye on my reputation for me (oh, Sappho dropped her guts in the farting thread but she is a no one).

Has the deleted post been reinstated yet free?  Or are you against freedom in the user run boards?


Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:01pm
Im not sure posters suspended themselves so much as its just been a bit difficult to get in again.

Lets all get on and forget this silly arguement.



Quote:
oh, Sappho dropped her guts in the farting thread but she is a no one
).

Everyone is someone DT...even you .                                                                                                   :-X

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:47pm

wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:01pm:
Im not sure posters suspended themselves so much as its just been a bit difficult to get in again.

Lets all get on and forget this silly arguement.



Quote:
oh, Sappho dropped her guts in the farting thread but she is a no one
).

Everyone is someone DT...even you .                                                                                                   :-X


Yes, except Sappho - she relinquished her right to be a someone when she demonstrated the extent of her extreme bigotry and her propensity to shriek insult and abuse on another forum.  Even a tolerant soul like me has standards below which when someone drops they drop out of recognisable humanity and submerge themselves in the sewer.  

So when a no one stalks me it is as if nothing happened.   ;D

But I am keen to know if autonomy is still a key aspect of the user run boards or if in fact freediver's tyranny extends to every corner of the forum - irrespective of what he hypocritically alleges.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:58pm
DT  -This thread is closed!    ;D

Hows that for tyranny...?

Dont tell me a woman  penetrated your rather austere countenance to rather ill effect ? A woman no less.

Did her old fart comment ruffle your feathers.?

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:12pm

wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:58pm:
DT  -This thread is closed!    ;D

Hows that for tyranny...?

Dont tell me a woman  penetrated your rather austere countenance to rather ill effect ? A woman no less.

Did her old fart comment ruffle your feathers.?


No.  I never get ruffled.  I just have little time for intolerance and am not afraid to say so.  As a righty I believe in equality and freedom.  I vote Liberal.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:18pm

deepthought wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:12pm:

wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:58pm:
DT  -This thread is closed!    ;D

Hows that for tyranny...?

Dont tell me a woman  penetrated your rather austere countenance to rather ill effect ? A woman no less.

Did her old fart comment ruffle your feathers.?


No.  I never get ruffled.  I just have little time for intolerance and am not afraid to say so.  As a righty I believe in equality and freedom.  I vote Liberal.



This would indicate feather ruffling has happened..Im a righty too posing as a lefty.. ;)

I voted Labor because I care.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:24pm

wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:18pm:

deepthought wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 6:12pm:

wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 5:58pm:
DT  -This thread is closed!    ;D

Hows that for tyranny...?

Dont tell me a woman  penetrated your rather austere countenance to rather ill effect ? A woman no less.

Did her old fart comment ruffle your feathers.?


No.  I never get ruffled.  I just have little time for intolerance and am not afraid to say so.  As a righty I believe in equality and freedom.  I vote Liberal.



This would indicate feather ruffling has happened..Im a righty too posing as a lefty.. ;)

I voted Labor because I care.


Perhaps you need to make an effort to speak out against intolerance.  I don't.  To me upholding one's standards of decency does not require feather ruffling - it is a perfectly natural state of being.

If you cared for carers and seniors and workers you would not have voted Liebor.  Who is it you care for?

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by freediver on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:08pm
If a member really wants to delete an individual post I will do it for them, regardless of which board it is on. Members used to be able to do this themselves but I turned it off because I suspected it was being abused. I don't see any difference between turning the feature back on and doing it myself for a member. I'm sorry if it spoiled your fun but no-one agreed to any rules about never being allowed to delete their own post. Furthermore, mantra did not agree to the terms you set out in that thread. There is no rule that says you have to read a thread and agree to any arbitrary rules posted by the board moderator in the thread before posting. As far as I am concerned, a member's right to delete an individual post comes before your right to make fun of them. It comes before your rights as a moderator.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:19pm

freediver wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:08pm:
If a member really wants to delete an individual post I will do it for them, regardless of which board it is on. Members used to be able to do this themselves but I turned it off because I suspected it was being abused. I don't see any difference between turning the feature back on and doing it myself for a member. I'm sorry if it spoiled your fun but no-one agreed to any rules about never being allowed to delete their own post. Furthermore, mantra did not agree to the terms you set out in that thread. There is no rule that says you have to read a thread and agree to any arbitrary rules posted by the board moderator in the thread before posting. As far as I am concerned, a member's right to delete an individual post comes before your right to make fun of them. It comes before your rights as a moderator.


No worries, as you have decided that the user run boards are not really user run boards be so kind as to remove me from moderating.  I see no point in moderating if you intend to moderate anyway.

And it had nothing to do with fun, it was a matter of upholding the spirit of the forum thread.  If mantra didn't enjoy the thread her choice could have been to stay away.  But she chose to participate (no one made her do that) against the spirit of a light hearted thread just to complain about the light hearted thread.

Once she chose to be there she has no right to complain that the rules be changed to suit her.  Only weak minded bullys do that.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:50pm
DT - after reading through your posts - I can honestly see your point and yes I made a mistake by interfering in your thread because I felt it was inappropriate - although obviously you didn't.

After I made the mistake - all I wanted was my post deleted so it couldn't be altered again, but it was too late anyway as IQ had aleady copied it.  

I requested FD remove it - in fact I asked him 3 times because in the end, it wasn't just the subject of the thread, it was the way you and IQ demanded that I adhere to some sort of ruling you had made.  You and IQ both came across as thugs - although I know you're not.

I didn't take much notice of your opening lines and in retrospect I shouldn't have posted there, but impulsively I did.  I was wrong to spit the dummy yesterday, but you were wrong not to delete my post at my request.  It was such a simple problem, but this whole subject has been turned into a mountain.

Can we move on - and get over this.  

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by freediver on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:53pm
That was impressive. Thanks for being so honest mantra. I wish everyone dealt with differences of opinion like that.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:59pm

mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 8:50pm:
DT - after reading through your posts - I can honestly see your point and yes I made a mistake by interfering in your thread because I felt it was inappropriate - although obviously you didn't.

After I made the mistake - all I wanted was my post deleted so it couldn't be altered again, but it was too late anyway as IQ had aleady copied it.  

I requested FD remove it - in fact I asked him 3 times because in the end, it wasn't just the subject of the thread, it was the way you and IQ demanded that I adhere to some sort of ruling you had made.  You and IQ both came across as thugs - although I know you're not.

I didn't take much notice of your opening lines and in retrospect I shouldn't have posted there, but impulsively I did.  I was wrong to spit the dummy yesterday, but you were wrong not to delete my post at my request.  It was such a simple problem, but this whole subject has been turned into a mountain.

Can we move on - and get over this.  


Actions speak louder than words.  Your actions were not those of one who made a mistake - they were those of a bully who believes her rights are superior to anyone else's.  You acted to silence others.  Not once did you acknowledge the right of others to enjoy ther rights to free speech.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:09pm

Quote:
Actions speak louder than words.  Your actions were not those of one who made a mistake - they were those of a bully who believes her rights are superior to anyone else's.  You acted to silence others.  Not once did you acknowledge the right of others to enjoy ther rights to free speech.  


DT - you couldn't be more wrong.  I had no intention of silencing anyone - I just wanted to escape from the thread once I realised my mistake.  

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by Sappho on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:14pm
I believe that a poster should have the right to delete their own posts.  :D

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:17pm
That is a good idea Sappho - I think freediver was saying something about it earlier. Maybe he will reinstate that option eventually.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:17pm

Sappho wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:14pm:
I believe that a poster should have the right to delete their own posts.  :D


I'm sure you do . . . . . . .

But once people comment on the post the thread can become incomprehensible.  Better to use your noggin before you post rather than after.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:29pm

mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:09pm:
DT - you couldn't be more wrong.  I had no intention of silencing anyone - I just wanted to escape from the thread once I realised my mistake.  



Really?  So who wrote this?


Quote:
Is this a concerted effort to deter people from this forum or is it payback for Freediver speaking honestly to you in another thread?

FD if he had any sense would have this thread removed.


Why would he have it removed if not to silence the speakers?

Pretending you are indignant does not absolve you from the acts of bullying and threatening.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by Sappho on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:30pm

deepthought wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:17pm:

Sappho wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:14pm:
I believe that a poster should have the right to delete their own posts.  :D


I'm sure you do . . . . . . .

But once people comment on the post the thread can become incomprehensible.  Better to use your noggin before you post rather than after.


Well, if you were really using your noggin DT, you would quote the post in your reply and in so doing, such a simple and easily thought act, remove the incomprehensible.

I guess you are Deepthought only in name.  ;D

Luv ya work dude.  :-*

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:34pm

Sappho wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:30pm:

deepthought wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:17pm:

Sappho wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:14pm:
I believe that a poster should have the right to delete their own posts.  :D


I'm sure you do . . . . . . .

But once people comment on the post the thread can become incomprehensible.  Better to use your noggin before you post rather than after.


Well, if you were really using your noggin DT, you would quote the post in your reply and in so doing, such a simple and easily thought act, remove the incomprehensible.

I guess you are Deepthought only in name.  ;D

Luv ya work dude.  :-*


So tell me Sappho, how can the original poster have their post removed if the following dude quotes it?

That was mantra's problem, IQ had quoted it.

I guess you aren't even deepthought in name.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:39pm

mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:09pm:
DT - you couldn't be more wrong.  I had no intention of silencing anyone  


Actions speak louder than words . . . . .


mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:37pm:
This thread is closed now.  It's been discussed to it's full potential and everyone has had a chance to voice their views.


Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:45pm
The lunatic is now in charge of the asylum  ::) ::) ::)

I've got no doubt that your moderation skills will be severely lacking as you have thus displayed so far Mantra.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:50pm

mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:09pm:
DT - you couldn't be more wrong.  I had no intention of silencing anyone  


Actions speak louder than words . . . .


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I'm not going to delete the thread, but I will delete any more posts on this subject from now on.


The tyrant is in charge and free speech ends.  I voted Liberal because I believe in freedom.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:54pm
Of course- she's a true Green.

Start practising your zeig heils  ::)

Your moderation has already proved to be head and shoulders above this useless display from Mantra. How quickly her true colours shine through...what a front bottoms


Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:55pm

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The tyrant is in charge and free speech ends.  I voted Liberal because I believe in freedom.


How scary for you deepthought.  But you'll get used to the lovely Laborites and gentle Greens soon enough and forget all about your freedom.  :)

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:56pm

IQSRLOW wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:54pm:
Of course- she's a true Green.

Start practising your zeig heils  ::)

Your moderation has already proved to be head and shoulders above this useless display from Mantra. How quickly her true colours shine through...what a front bottoms



I did not delete a single post or thread, nor silence a single person in  the couple of months I modded.  mantra took just ten seconds to silence free speech despite lying about that not being her intention.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 16th, 2008 at 10:00pm
It really is a disgusting display.

Perhaps FD will be courteous enough to act using the same logic he applies to posters wishing to have their posts deleted to those that will have their posts deleted without wanting them to be and reinstate them??  ::)

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 16th, 2008 at 10:23pm
mantra took just ten seconds to silence free speech despite lying about that not being her intention.

Yes- I have pulled her up many, many, many times in the past about her propensity to lie- yet she still protests her innocence. She can be the worst liar of all...one who lies to herself.

Perhaps if she recognised her problem she could make some valuable progress and she wouldn't have to continue lying...especially to herself. Thankfully in this thread she finally took the time to look inwardly and saw that she made a fool of herself in the other thread- their may be hope for her yet but I wouldn't put any money on it.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 16th, 2008 at 10:27pm

mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:55pm:

Quote:
The tyrant is in charge and free speech ends.  I voted Liberal because I believe in freedom.


How scary for you deepthought.  But you'll get used to the lovely Laborites and gentle Greens soon enough and forget all about your freedom.  :)



Nope, a citizen has the responsibility to fight against oppressive and deceitful dictatorships.  Though I know Bob Brown disagrees.  He believes he is the decider of who does what - and you are a loyal follower.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by mantra on Mar 17th, 2008 at 9:38am
IQ - I would appreciate you not refer to me again as a "C".   Not that anything you say bothers me anymore, but by you using this form of abuse - it gives other people the right to believe they can do the same thing.  


Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 17th, 2008 at 9:57am
I will not refer to you as a "C" if you don't act like a "C"

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by freediver on Mar 17th, 2008 at 10:44am
IQ I will suspend you again if you keep up the personal attacks.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by OcEaNiC on Mar 17th, 2008 at 10:57am

mantra wrote on Mar 16th, 2008 at 9:17pm:
That is a good idea Sappho - I think freediver was saying something about it earlier. Maybe he will reinstate that option eventually.



When I was mod of the Relationships Forum  posters had that option. Why was it removed?

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by freediver on Mar 17th, 2008 at 11:36am
I removed it because I suspected it was being abused. People can still delete the content of their post, which only happens occasionally anyway. If you want you can start a new thread about it and I will reinstate it if there aren't too many objections.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by deepthought on Mar 17th, 2008 at 3:34pm

mantra wrote on Mar 17th, 2008 at 9:38am:
IQ - I would appreciate you not refer to me again as a "C".   Not that anything you say bothers me anymore, but by you using this form of abuse - it gives other people the right to believe they can do the same thing.  



How about calling someone an idiot?  Or a liability?  Same thing apply?  By using this form of abuse it gives other people the right to believe they can do the same thing?  

Title: Re: Anonymous and selective moderating
Post by mantra on May 29th, 2008 at 8:35am
Recently on the Relationships Forum a good half dozen posts were deleted - for what reason - who knows, but apparently the moderator must have thought they were of no relevance.  These posts were chatty and related to the thread they were in.

Those whose posts were deleted (including me) said nothing - although the moderator of the Relationships forum, who chooses to remain anonymous didn't have the courtesy to explain why.

Yesterday morning I made a very polite request in regard to some photos, which I believed trashed a thread I started and there has been no response.  The anonymous moderator hasn't bothered to replied to my PM so hence I'm making it public.

You can say goodbye to that thread now and guests viewing it no doubt will think less of the forum.  Thankfully a similar thread has been started on another website to continue this discussion, which still has a long way to go.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by sprintcyclist on May 29th, 2008 at 8:38am
Thanks for the update mantra.
I don't go to that thread.
prob the idea of an anonymous moderator put me off.

As a rule, I feel few posts should be deleted.
Sure, some call for it but in the main they only reflect on the poster, not the postee.

Title: Re: Anonymous and selective moderating
Post by mantra on May 29th, 2008 at 8:47am

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As a rule, I feel few posts should be deleted.


True sprintcyclist - but if you saw these photos, you would probably agree.

Title: Re: Moderating a forum
Post by sprintcyclist on May 29th, 2008 at 9:04am
yes, some posts do call for deletion.

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