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Title: Jared Diamond @ UQ Post by freediver on Oct 22nd, 2007 at 11:52am
Jared Diamond will be doing a presentation at The University of Queensland tomorrow (23/10/07). No idea what it is about. It is his only public appearance for this trip to Australia.
Event: Jared Diamond - Seminar Time: 2pm – 3.15pm Date: Tuesday 23rd October Location: Building 63 Room 358 some of his books: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond#Books http://www.uq.edu.au/events/event_view.php?event_id=3711 |
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Title: Oil companies protecting the environment Post by freediver on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 7:19pm
The lecture was interesting, though I think I have heard a lot of it before. He focussed on why some companies go to great lengths to reduce their ecological footprint while others are very destructive. Basically it comes down to the nature of the industry and the incentives. I think that this is a very valuable message for environmentalists.
He started with an interesting example of the Kikori oilfield in PNG. In contrast to Bouganville, which is currently a $4billion asset sitting idle, responsible for perhaps 100000 deaths, Kikori is profitable and earning a good reputation for the companies involved. It was started by Chevron Texaco and has been taken over by a local company called Oilsearch. They provide funding for independent ecological auditors (WWF) to monitor wildlife. What they found is that birds and mammals were far more abundant and diverse within the oil company property than elsewhere. The immediate reasons for this are:
What they had effectively created was the largest national park in PNG. These expenses and strict rules had a number of payoffs for the company:
What causes the variation around the world in how environmentally responsible companies are? Diamond gave tow factors:
Some industries are inherently dirtier, so for those companies to clean up their act costs a lot more and is harder to justify. The oil industry for example has far less waste (tailings) to dispose of than most mining industries. Gold and platinum mines typically get about 1 part in 5 million as metal, the rest is waste. However it is still possible to get huge variation in how cleanly companies dispose of the tailings. Incentives includes laws, fines, bonds (insurance against damage), tax credits, direct public action (boycotts, embarrassment of companies etc. These act to ‘level the playing field, so that companies do not find themselves at a competitive disadvantage from protecting the environment. Without a social requirement, dirty practices become more profitable and will proliferate. In the Kikori project, protection of the pipeline - a huge investment – was a strong incentive to protect the environment. Loggers do not leave fixed assets so they do not have the same incentive. Companies always complain about new regulation and predict the death of the industry etc. For example, American coal companies complained that rehabilitation work would make coal mines unprofitable. They convinced the government, up until the Buffalo creek disaster of 1972 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Creek_Flood - 125 dead, 1121 injuries, 4000 left homeless etc). Then the government took action and required coal mines to rehabilitate land after they have finished. The dire predictions of the coal industry did not eventuate. What about moral responsibility? [my view – expecting companies to go beyond the law and act morally is simply naive and also ignores the fact that people have varying moral standards] Jared had some good points about demanding companies act morally. They are unworkable. Societies and governments have a moral responsibility to set up the necessary incentives for companies to act responsibly. Why should a comapny do something if the public doesn’t care? |
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Title: Oil companies protecting the environment Post by freediver on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 7:25pm
Powerful opponents
Large companies have a lot of money to spend on political donations (ie bribes) and advertising. While this makes it more difficult, it can (and must) be overcome. For example, leach heap gold mining companies were successful for some time in a US state in campaigning against better standards. They outspent environmental organisations 10:1. However, eventually the public got sick of it and banned the practice completely – which sent a powerful message to all gold mines around the world. The risk of citizen overreaction if companies succeed in interfering with the political process is significant. Political action (like democracy itself) is difficult, but the best way to achieve change. Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge Jared claimed that contrary to the rhetoric of George Bush, oil companies would prefer not to extract oil from the Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve – a controversial issue in the US. There is not a lot of oil there to begin with, and they don’t want to risk a public backlash. Australia's greenhouse emissions On the issue of greenhouse emissions and Australia’s seemingly small role in the total global emissions, he pointed out that only two developed nations have refused to ratify Kyoto. By ratifying, Australia will make a huge difference by completely isolating the US. China and India are far more likely to take more action if the US does. Fishing, the commons Jared branched out into hunting and fishing. He cited the wild Alaskan Salmon fishery and the Australian rock lobster fishery as examples of sustainable industries. Sustainable logging and fishing in PNG is not common. There are no national parks, but villages can set up local WMA’s (Wildlife Management Areas) for which the government grants them the right to exclude other hunters. Alaskan Salmon fishermen approached the government to set up a level playing field with a much higher standard. It is now the best managed fishery in the US. On managing common resources (‘commons’) in general, he referred to Elinor Ostrom, who provides several key factors necessary for reaching agreement on the sustainable management of commons. These include homogeneity among stakeholders (shared values, culture, language etc) to aid communication, the ability to exclude others, and the belief that the lifestyle and the resource will be passed on to children. |
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