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Message started by oceansblue on Oct 11th, 2007 at 5:34pm

Title: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society-
Post by oceansblue on Oct 11th, 2007 at 5:34pm
Prostitution- where to start- there are so many facets to prostitution- the one Im mainly concerned with concerns females of legal age.

Of course it has a far broader context than this- in this day of the internet porn , the child sex trade etc.


Very young women taking this up-even if only as a fad, to make a bit of extra cash. Has prostition then lost its stigma or did it ever have one?
Do young pple think its a "cool" thing to do ?

As is the trend to experience lesbianism at least once before they are done with youthful experimentation?

What are your thoughts on the existence in society of"the brothel".
Does it have a legitimate place in society?
Or is it outmoded now in the era of internet porn etc.?

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by freediver on Oct 11th, 2007 at 7:38pm
Do young pple think its a "cool" thing to do ?  

Not unless I'm a lot older than I thought. I don't think anyone sees it as a 'fad'.

Or is it outmoded now in the era of internet porn etc.?

There are some things a computer just can't do for you.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by cautious connie on Oct 12th, 2007 at 8:16pm
I have overheard teenage girls 13 or so discussing it literally as a career option because it pays so well and they know others have done it. They certainly regarded it as a lot "cooler" than a job as a shop assistant.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by cautious connie on Oct 12th, 2007 at 8:17pm
And as to prostitution having a rightful place I disagree. The whole idea of it makes me sick.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by oceansblue on Oct 12th, 2007 at 11:59pm

cautious connie wrote on Oct 12th, 2007 at 8:16pm:
I have overheard teenage girls 13 or so discussing it literally as a career option because it pays so well and they know others have done it. They certainly regarded it as a lot "cooler" than a job as a shop assistant.



yes when Id heard of young women going down this path I admit I was shocked that they were so blase' about it.

But I think its a sign of the times we live in- the potrayal of women in the media movies and TV that has set this trend in motion.

Ive heard of young women in my communuity who have tried theyre hand at this and Im not talking the Ind community although it may stem in part from the same influences.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by pender on Oct 15th, 2007 at 9:23am

cautious connie wrote on Oct 12th, 2007 at 8:17pm:
And as to prostitution having a rightful place I disagree. The whole idea of it makes me sick.


seconded

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 15th, 2007 at 10:06am
Noones even put forward a purpose or rightful place for prostitition in society.

Let alone one that stands up to any discussion

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2007 at 10:15am
From an economic perspective, it is a valuable service.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by pender on Oct 16th, 2007 at 10:32pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2007 at 10:15am:
From an economic perspective, it is a valuable service.


only if it is taxed, which it very often isnt.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Sappho on Oct 17th, 2007 at 6:41am

Classic Liberal wrote on Oct 15th, 2007 at 9:23am:

cautious connie wrote on Oct 12th, 2007 at 8:17pm:
And as to prostitution having a rightful place I disagree. The whole idea of it makes me sick.


seconded


It is a given that the drive for sex is a primary need located with thirst and hunger in the hyperthalamus. And lets not confuse this drive for sex with it's ultimate function/ design/ purpose -  procreation - for I cannot imagine men, when they see a beautiful women undressed wanting a child at that moment, nor even can I imagine the converse. A woman who see's a buff sexy man showing interest in her, is not concerned with her womb at that moment, but is rather driven by sexual desire.

And it also is a given that like thirst and hunger, the drive for sex can be postponed. Yet it is also true however, that like thirst and hunger, it cannot be postponed forever. Where it is that a consenting adult is not available, masterbation results, as the need for sex must be satisfied. It is our biology.  

Another given is that the world is filled with many kinds of peoples including the disabled, retarded (intended respectfully) and mentally ill. Their primary drives of thirst, hunger and sex are not deminished from their afflictions in most cases yet their capacity to access a sexual relationship is deminished significantly. For many such people, there only sexual interaction with another human is through the services of Brothels. Would you deny them this primary need for your want of moral superiority?

Another given is that the world is filled with many peoples who have sexual deviations which drive their psychological sexual satisfaction. BDSM is an example. I am loath to think of the various brands of "Marquis de Sade's" which would result from the lack of such services as Brothels provide. How many more Rapes are you willing to tollerate for your want of moral superiority?


(There you go Sprint.... your wish has come true.  ;))

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by cautious connie on Oct 17th, 2007 at 7:04am
I think there may well be a role for sex-therapists. I regard that as different from prostitution.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by sprintcyclist on Oct 17th, 2007 at 9:07am
Thanks Sappho,

Well worded too I might add.
There you go, and to be honest I could not really see a purpose or rightful place for brothels.

One mate I used to know used to go to them and said the ladies there were like psychologists.

Take care

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by oceansblue on Oct 17th, 2007 at 10:27am

Sappho wrote on Oct 17th, 2007 at 6:41am:

Classic Liberal wrote on Oct 15th, 2007 at 9:23am:

cautious connie wrote on Oct 12th, 2007 at 8:17pm:
And as to prostitution having a rightful place I disagree. The whole idea of it makes me sick.


seconded


It is a given that the drive for sex is a primary need located with thirst and hunger in the hyperthalamus. And lets not confuse this drive for sex with it's ultimate function/ design/ purpose -  procreation - for I cannot imagine men, when they see a beautiful women undressed wanting a child at that moment, nor even can I imagine the converse. A woman who see's a buff sexy man showing interest in her, is not concerned with her womb at that moment, but is rather driven by sexual desire.

And it also is a given that like thirst and hunger, the drive for sex can be postponed. Yet it is also true however, that like thirst and hunger, it cannot be postponed forever. Where it is that a consenting adult is not available, masterbation results, as the need for sex must be satisfied. It is our biology.  

Another given is that the world is filled with many kinds of peoples including the disabled, retarded (intended respectfully) and mentally ill. Their primary drives of thirst, hunger and sex are not deminished from their afflictions in most cases yet their capacity to access a sexual relationship is deminished significantly. For many such people, there only sexual interaction with another human is through the services of Brothels. Would you deny them this primary need for your want of moral superiority?

Another given is that the world is filled with many peoples who have sexual deviations which drive their psychological sexual satisfaction. BDSM is an example. I am loath to think of the various brands of "Marquis de Sade's" which would result from the lack of such services as Brothels provide. How many more Rapes are you willing to tollerate for your want of moral superiority?


(There you go Sprint.... your wish has come true.  ;))


Thanks for that sappho-

You made some very good points about the purpose of prostitution in society- I have stayed off this topic since posting to see what was offered up.

Its nice to see someone with an open and realistic veiwpoint and I concur whats more- post more later.


Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by pender on Oct 20th, 2007 at 1:39pm
prostitutes are a blight, any benefit they give for a problem has a better solution anyway.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by freediver on Oct 20th, 2007 at 3:21pm
any benefit they give for a problem has a better solution anyway

For example?

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by AcidMonkey on Oct 20th, 2007 at 11:08pm
Is this discussion differentiating between brothel and street prostitutes? Or is this about prostitution in general. I have no opinion either way as I've never really thought about it. I guess it doesn't bother me too much. However, and I don't want to make light of this serious topic but I am interested and having never solicited one... do they charge GST for their services? ;)

Bloody hell, I sound niaive.  ::)

Cheers!


Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Oceans on Mar 8th, 2008 at 7:35pm

Acid Monkey wrote on Oct 20th, 2007 at 11:08pm:
Is this discussion differentiating between brothel and street prostitutes? Or is this about prostitution in general. I have no opinion either way as I've never really thought about it. I guess it doesn't bother me too much. However, and I don't want to make light of this serious topic but I am interested and having never solicited one... do they charge GST for their services? ;)

Bloody hell, I sound niaive.  ::)

Cheers!


A minor point Acid Monkey but an interesting question. I would say yes..it is a service.

Anyone know for sure?

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by deepthought on Mar 8th, 2008 at 7:37pm

wrote on Mar 8th, 2008 at 7:35pm:

Acid Monkey wrote on Oct 20th, 2007 at 11:08pm:
Is this discussion differentiating between brothel and street prostitutes? Or is this about prostitution in general. I have no opinion either way as I've never really thought about it. I guess it doesn't bother me too much. However, and I don't want to make light of this serious topic but I am interested and having never solicited one... do they charge GST for their services? ;)

Bloody hell, I sound niaive.  ::)

Cheers!


A minor point Acid Monkey but an interesting question. I would say yes..it is a service.

Anyone know for sure?


If they are licenced and declare their income they pay the same taxes as everyone else.  GST applies to a root.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Aussie on Mar 8th, 2008 at 9:34pm
"Root," is now = "tear."   :o

I have it on good authority, so catch up please DT.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by deepthought on Mar 8th, 2008 at 9:54pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 8th, 2008 at 9:34pm:
"Root," is now = "tear."   :o

I have it on good authority, so catch up please DT.


Really?  So instead of rooting someone, you tear them?   Sounds painful, but then maybe you are a bigger man than me.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Aussie on Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:40pm

Quote:
So instead of rooting someone, you tear them?


Correct, DT, or so it seems if you are about a 2  x quarter class Aboriginal leaving a brothel after a root.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by deepthought on Mar 8th, 2008 at 11:09pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:40pm:

Quote:
So instead of rooting someone, you tear them?


Correct, DT, or so it seems if you are about a 2  x quarter class Aboriginal leaving a brothel after a root.



After a tear?

I find that extraordinary.   I hope freediver doesn't read this - he'll be re-coding the software so when you use the word 'tear' it will appear as 'thingy'.

So when you have had a tear and tell us all on the forum about it, it will come out as "Last night my wife wanted a thingy".

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Ray_A on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:09pm
I go to many brothels nearly every night. I get a 5$ tip from brothel owners for "services rendered".  :-X


Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Ray_A on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:20pm

Classic Liberal wrote on Oct 20th, 2007 at 1:39pm:
prostitutes are a blight, any benefit they give for a problem has a better solution anyway.


From the wisdom of Confucius:


Quote:
"Wife who put husband in dog house soon find him in cat house."

"Man who masturbate only screwing self."

"Boy who goes to bed with sex problem wake up with solution in hand."


Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by deepthought on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:32pm

Ray_A wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:09pm:
I go to many brothels nearly every night. I get a 5$ tip from brothel owners for "services rendered".  :-X


I hope you declare the income and pay GST Ray.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Ray_A on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:42pm

deepthought wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:32pm:

Ray_A wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:09pm:
I go to many brothels nearly every night. I get a 5$ tip from brothel owners for "services rendered".  :-X


I hope you declare the income and pay GST Ray.


I pay GST every quarter. But the ATO are well aware that all is not declared. They'd be numskulls to not realise this. Remember, we don't get annual leave, superannuation, sick pay, danger money, and the cost of a green slip for cabbies who are owners is around $4,000 a year. The cost of a taxi plate ranges between $250,000 - $450,000, depending on where you live.

I love generous tippers.  ;D  

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Aussie on Mar 10th, 2008 at 4:21pm

Ray_A wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:09pm:
I go to many brothels nearly every night. I get a 5$ tip from brothel owners for "services rendered".  :-X



That'd be living off the earnings of prostitution.  Hang Ray_A immediately!  

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Aussie on Mar 10th, 2008 at 4:22pm

Quote:
The cost of a taxi plate ranges between $250,000 - $450,000, depending on where you live.  


Over $500,000.00 here on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Ray_A on Mar 10th, 2008 at 4:30pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 4:21pm:

Ray_A wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 2:09pm:
I go to many brothels nearly every night. I get a 5$ tip from brothel owners for "services rendered".  :-X



That'd be living off the earnings of prostitution.  Hang Ray_A immediately!  


I feel totally ashamed! What kind of rope do you recommend?

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Ray_A on Mar 10th, 2008 at 4:32pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 4:22pm:

Quote:
The cost of a taxi plate ranges between $250,000 - $450,000, depending on where you live.  


Over $500,000.00 here on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland.


I know, I have a mate who drives in Brisbane. Always good to read your comments. You know what it's all about.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by mantra on Mar 10th, 2008 at 5:53pm
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Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by IQSRLOW on Mar 10th, 2008 at 6:01pm
So now we have established that. It just comes down to setting the price?
:D

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by Ray_A on Mar 10th, 2008 at 6:05pm

mantra wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 5:53pm:
About a week later I received a phone call out of the blue from the manager saying that he had a rock celebrity coming out from the UK who just wanted someone to go out to dinner with him - definitely no sex, but they would pay me $500 for about 3 hours work.   I almost niavely agreed, until I thought - that's strange - why would a celebrity have to hire someone just to have dinner with him?


No strings attached. No alimony payments. No commitment. No personal questions or becoming too friendly. Just body to body. For 30 mins to one hour. Basic instinct fulfilled, with no emotional dramas. That's why.

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by mantra on Mar 10th, 2008 at 6:08pm
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Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by mantra on Mar 10th, 2008 at 6:15pm
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Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by deepthought on Mar 10th, 2008 at 6:32pm

mantra wrote on Mar 10th, 2008 at 6:15pm:

Quote:
No strings attached. No alimony payments. No commitment. No personal questions or becoming too friendly. Just body to body. For 30 mins to one hour. Basic instinct fulfilled, with no emotional dramas. That's why.  


Yes - you're right Ray and it's easy to see why sex workers are so heavily in demand - but they would have to have strong constitutions, because the clientele wouldn't always be that palatable.


As long as you don't have to eat them.

Can you ask them to wear a bag?

Title: Re: Does Prostitution serve any purpose in society
Post by mantra on Mar 10th, 2008 at 7:09pm
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