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Message started by freediver on Jul 24th, 2007 at 11:46am

Title: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by freediver on Jul 24th, 2007 at 11:46am
I've heard that even regular honey is a good antibiotic

US approves Manuka honey wound dressings

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/US-approves-Manuka-honey-wound-dressings/2007/07/23/1185043026786.html

Waikato-based Comvita Ltd says its patented "advanced wound care dressing" has become the first using manuka honey for wounds and burns to receive marketing clearance from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Some biologically active honey gathered from manuka contains the compound methylglyoxal, which helps it to battle bacteria causing stomach ulcers, and to promote wound healing.

Wound-care products using the honey have become increasingly valuable as they have also proven effective against some antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Aussie Nationalist on Jul 24th, 2007 at 1:15pm
Thats been known for years.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by freediver on Jul 24th, 2007 at 1:50pm
Centuries even.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by oceansblue on Jul 24th, 2007 at 3:21pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2007 at 1:50pm:
Centuries even.


yes but its not just any old honey is it?

The one they have in hospitals doesnt come from Capilano I wouldnt imagine

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by freediver on Jul 24th, 2007 at 3:28pm
The variety in question does have additional properties which make it valuable. However, any old honey is a useful antibiotic, as far as I know. Are there any micro-organisms that can live on honey? Does honey ever go off?

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by JaSin. on Sep 13th, 2020 at 10:00am
I've increased my honey intake and I change from one type to another looking for the sweet spot of honeys to my liking. Raw egg a day, no alcohol etc, Fruit, garlic, apricot and more.
Honeys are a great food and healing product.
Would reccommend it to anyone and push the point of importance to protect our Bee industry.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 13th, 2020 at 9:22pm
I put honey in with my oatmeal. Manuka honey was purchased in place of regular honey because it was making me feel better.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 13th, 2020 at 9:34pm
The antibiotic aspect has been suspected. FDA marketing clearance isn't a sign it works, just that there is permission to market it.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by freediver on Sep 13th, 2020 at 9:39pm
Would the FDA permit marketing of medical treatments that have no value?

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 13th, 2020 at 9:42pm

freediver wrote on Sep 13th, 2020 at 9:39pm:
Would the FDA permit marketing of medical treatments that have no value?




Its more about not killing anyone more than not working

https://www.cnet.com/health/fda-approved-vs-fda-cleared-whats-the-difference/

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by freediver on Sep 13th, 2020 at 9:59pm
Bit of circular logic in that article - a "cleared" product means it is equivalent to another product that is either "cleared" or "approved". Approval requires demonstration of actual benefits.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 13th, 2020 at 10:02pm
Thats for commerical devices. But for something like manuka its the FDA saying we know this won't kill anyone but we cant approve it for clinical use like we would a drug

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by freediver on Sep 13th, 2020 at 10:13pm
It's a wound dressing. I expect they would pay a bit more attention.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 13th, 2020 at 10:16pm
Its advertised as a wound dressing which means its a band aid. Is it better than a band aid? who knows, but as long as its sterile its not worse

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by 0ktema on Sep 13th, 2020 at 10:19pm
Australia also has a high quality medicinal native honey.


Quote:
What is Manuka Honey or Jelly Bush Honey?

Most people have heard of the benefits of Manuka Honey – from healing wounds to fighting infections – thanks to the presence of methylglyoxal (MGO), dihydroxyacetone (DHA) and leptosperin – the natural components that give Manuka honey its power and prove its authenticity.
Where does it come from?

Traditionally thought only to come from New Zealand, Manuka Honey is also found in Australia and researchers have scientifically proven several ‘Australian Manuka’ honeys to have the same qualities as those found in our New Zealand counterparts!

In fact, Australia & New Zealand are the only places in the world that produce Manuka honey with these healing qualities(2) and why it’s been used by Indigenous Australians for thousands of years and is still used today.

How does it get the Name Jelly Bush?

AB’s Honey beekeepers harvest nectar from Australian Manuka plants. One species of the leptosperin plant found in Australia is also known as ‘Jelly Bush’, which is why some refer to Australian Manuka Honey as Jelly Bush Honey or Australian Bush Honey.

Jelly Bush Honey gets its name from the thick jelly-like nature of the honey that the bees gather from the leptospermum flowers. Jelly Bush honey is traditionally only found in NSW and QLD, shares the same hydrogen peroxide releasing enzymes as Manuka honey, which helps to fight bacterial infections(1).


https://www.simplyhoney.com.au/what-is-jelly-bush-honey/

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 13th, 2020 at 10:21pm
My understanding is that the medicinal effort on Manuka is about isolating the key compunds rather than just using the honey

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by JaSin. on Sep 14th, 2020 at 2:44pm
Dipping skin cancer patients into warm 'Emu Oil' baths is probably of no beneficial aspect also, but because it doesn't hurt or kill - it's approved as a 'Medical' aspect?

I don't get it?

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 14th, 2020 at 3:33pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 14th, 2020 at 2:44pm:
Dipping skin cancer patients into warm 'Emu Oil' baths is probably of no beneficial aspect also, but because it doesn't hurt or kill - it's approved as a 'Medical' aspect?

I don't get it?



Its approved to be marketed.

Title: Re: Honey is an antibiotic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 14th, 2020 at 3:36pm
But I understand, its a confusing distinction.

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