Cats 'bad news for any allergy sufferer'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Cats-bad-news-for-any-allergy-sufferer/2007/07/03/1183351172821.html

People with allergies may have some constriction in their airways when they're around a cat, even if they're not specifically allergic to cats, a study published on Monday suggests.

Researchers found that people with a range of allergies - to grass, mould or dust - were more prone to airway constriction if their homes were heavy with cat dander. This was true even when blood tests showed the allergy sufferers were not specifically sensitised to cats.

but I still love my cat.

I dislike cats cause they are mass murderers.
In my permaculture garden, there used to be a multotude of skinks etc.
At every footstep they would scurry away in every direction.
My ex (of course  >:() got a cat. Within 2 months MY garden was devoid of all lovely native animals.

How many cats have heard their last noise as my air rifle discharges its round :o

wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2007 at 11:03pm:

How many cats have heard their last noise as my air rifle discharges its round :o

cats are cute and Aus Nat an air rifle wont kill a cat unless you shoot it right thru the eye. ;) Ive shot a few cats in my time.Feral.

I think cats have a place in the scheme of things, and yes they are very effective hunters and that is not good for wildlife. Im a responsible cat owner.She is desexed and well fed and is indoors before 5 oclock in the evening.

well done oceans for shooting the feral cats.
I saw some feral dogs hanging off a sign post out west.  
ugly dangerous wild things, looked more like wolves to me

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cats are cute and Aus Nat an air rifle wont kill a cat unless you shoot it right thru the eye. ;) Ive shot a few cats in my time.Feral.

Not the air rifle i got ;) goes right through skull.
And yes they were feral cats.

wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2007 at 11:58pm:

Quote: cats are cute and Aus Nat an air rifle wont kill a cat unless you shoot it right thru the eye. ;) Ive shot a few cats in my time.Feral. Not the air rifle i got ;) goes right through skull. And yes they were feral cats.

Onya Ausnat!  8-)  Saving the environment. Australian of the year, hey oceans?  ;)


I personally don't hate cats... but I can understand why other people do...

They're  stuck-up, manipulative and dangerous (Well... they're sometimes viscious and have random spaz attacks).

wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2007 at 11:58pm:

Quote: cats are cute and Aus Nat an air rifle wont kill a cat unless you shoot it right thru the eye. ;) Ive shot a few cats in my time.Feral. Not the air rifle i got ;) goes right through skull. And yes they were feral cats.

Well Ausnat..maybe you should use at least a 22 next time. Because if a gun is not powerful enough it is cruel to the animal being targetted. My experince of Air rifles sees them very wanting, by gum ive been shot in the behind with one by a cousin and it stung at best.


OUCH!!!!

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jul 4^th, 2007 at 4:14am:

wrote on Jul 3rd, 2007 at 11:58pm: Quote: cats are cute and Aus Nat an air rifle wont kill a cat unless you shoot it right thru the eye. ;) Ive shot a few cats in my time.Feral. Not the air rifle i got ;) goes right through skull. And yes they were feral cats. Onya Ausnat!  8-)  Saving the environment. Australian of the year, hey oceans?  ;) I personally don't hate cats... but I can understand why other people do... They're  stuck-up, manipulative and dangerous (Well... they're sometimes viscious and have random spaz attacks).

Ausnat Australian of the year ? maybe, after me :) Ive shot hundreds of feral cats for bounty.

So get in line Aussie..ill let you wear my crown---

if your nice to me ;)

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Ausnat Australian of the year ? maybe, after me :) Ive shot hundreds of feral cats for bounty. So get in line Aussie..ill let you wear my crown--- if your nice to me ;)

Oh yeah, well i did it for FREE. No bounty given to me!

What are you talking about- i am nice to you 8-)

Oceans is right Aus Nat - if you have to kill an animal at least use something a bit more effective than an air rifle.  If it's hit in the wrong spot it may take days for it to die slowly and in agony.

I used to have 2 cats and both lived to an old age, but like Sprintcyclist I became aware of the wildlife carnage and would never own another one.  The female was OK and only caught mice, but the male was aggressive and just before he died (of old age) I found him with a pet bird in his mouth.  When this happens - cats won't release their jaws - so you have to give them a sharp chop to the back of the neck, not enough to kill them, but just shock them into releasing them.  I chopped my cat on the neck - but it was too late - the bird was dead.

I've had to do this with other stray cats since then.  I even found one with a bush turkey locked in his jaws.  Wildlife is too precious to lose to a cat and unfortunately - not you Oceans, but too many cat owners are irresponsible and let their cats wander and kill indiscriminately.

Then they get upset when you suggest they should take responsibility for their pets....

Freediver - they sure do.

That amazes me is dog owners replies when a complaint of being bitten is made.
"He's never done that before.", "what do you do to make him bite you."  ....

Any dog that bites anyone for any reason whatsoever should be shot.

I had one of my dogs put down for biting someone. First time, while my blood was still up.
Took him to the RSPCA, funny story in a way.
the guy asked "can I help you." I said "Could you put my dog down please."
Everyone moved away from me, they looked at my like I was a child rapist.  
I said "He bit someone." as an apology .  
The understanding reply was , "Oh, take him around that cornor, down the path turn right ,... "  $3 it was, what a bargain.

I had "inherited" the dog from a brother. He was not so happy when I told him what I had done.
He said he would have hidden the dog. Turns out the dog had bitten a few other people before .
About a month later another dog attack got a $5000 fine for the owner. fair enough really.
I was lucky, the victim only wanted his doctors bill paid.

I can relate to your story Sprintcyclist - I agree - when a dog bites once - he will do it again.

I took on a dog of my brothers as well - he was spoilt & undisciplined.  I had him desexed and given hormones to calm him down, but he was out of control.  He hated old people and children and one day a little boy teased him and the dog bit him on the face.  I'd been patient even after he had hurt my cat a couple of times, but I raced him straight down to the vet and had him put down.  I was the worst person in the world - my niece, nephew & daughter were so upset with me, but you can't keep a dog that bites.

I've always had dogs, but from puppies onwards and never ever - even under provocation have any of these dogs  bitten or snapped.  But I will always warn strangers not to touch them - just in case.  Dogs unfortunately are unpredictable and even though they are warm and loving to their owners (apart from that women recently who was killed and half eaten by a dozen dogs she rescued) - you can't trust a dog who has been owned by someone else.

Some relatives of mine used to own a dog that hated black people. Most people could walk by the front of the house and the dog wouldn't move, but if it was black people he would go out and bark at them. Funny thing was, the dog was mostly black. They didn't have a front fence. I think he bit someone once, but they pumped him full of girl hormones and that seemed to fix the problem. They had another very undisciplined, but small dog. We would play with him biting,chewing our shoes. He often snapped at people, especially if you tried to get him to move from sonewhere (eg under the brake pedal) and he didn't want to. But he didn't bite hard enough to break the skin, just enough to scare you. It was the snarl that did it, not the bite.

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freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2007 at 1:15pm:

Some relatives of mine used to own a dog that hated black people. Most people could walk by the front of the house and the dog wouldn't move, but if it was black people he would go out and bark at them.

My two dogs are exactly the same!
They hate Blacks and Arabs.
Perhaps they sense Evil?

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Either that or they sense your fear.

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2007 at 2:54pm:

Either that or they sense your fear.

Yeah, towelheads and coons scare me FD ::)

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2007 at 1:15pm:

Some relatives of mine used to own a dog that hated black people. Most people could walk by the front of the house and the dog wouldn't move, but if it was black people he would go out and bark at them. Funny thing was, the dog was mostly black. They didn't have a front fence. I think he bit someone once, but they pumped him full of girl hormones and that seemed to fix the problem. They had another very undisciplined, but small dog. We would play with him biting,chewing our shoes. He often snapped at people, especially if you tried to get him to move from sonewhere (eg under the brake pedal) and he didn't want to. But he didn't bite hard enough to break the skin, just enough to scare you. It was the snarl that did it, not the bite.

Freediver... I'd like to buy your dog...  ;)

Just kidding.

http://www.catsizeentertainment.com/img/FCP_thattaway.jpg

Hes just adorable dont you think..

Hes been around the world a couple of times or maybe more. >:(

And hes P!!!!!!!!SSSEED off.

oceans - hahahha, that is a classic piccie of a pet.

It is amazing the expressions animals have.
One cat I know is called "pumpkin", sometimes he is known as "grumpkin".  :)

One of my old dogs had a piccie of him at night downstairs with a stubbie in his mouth.
Looks like he is coming home at 3 am after a big night.  Was entirely his character too.

BLOODY CAT

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5^th, 2007 at 10:02pm:

oceans - hahahha, that is a classic piccie of a pet. It is amazing the expressions animals have. One cat I know is called "pumpkin", sometimes he is known as "grumpkin".  :) One of my old dogs had a piccie of him at night downstairs with a stubbie in his mouth. Looks like he is coming home at 3 am after a big night.  Was entirely his character too.

too funny sprint.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5^th, 2007 at 10:02pm:

oceans - hahahha, that is a classic piccie of a pet. It is amazing the expressions animals have. One cat I know is called "pumpkin", sometimes he is known as "grumpkin".  :) One of my old dogs had a piccie of him at night downstairs with a stubbie in his mouth. Looks like he is coming home at 3 am after a big night.  Was entirely his character too.

Nice [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,22053837-30417,00.html

IT won't get the thumbs up in the paddock but a leading ecologist says it's time to reintroduce dingoes to national parks, conservation areas and even rangelands.
Based on research in a 325,000sq km rangeland region of NSW, Chris Dickman of the University of Sydney claims Canis lupus dingo could help protect 21 nationally or regionally threatened species of native animals living in the semi-arid heartland of Australia.

"It's fair to say it's not a popular idea," Professor Dickman said yesterday at an international biodiversity conference held at the University of NSW.

According to Professor Dickman, dingoes would help to control feral foxes and cats that he claimed were behind the decrease in numbers and extinction of small animals such as the NSW bilby and species of native mice.

He said 40 per cent of marsupials and 75 per cent of native mice are now extinct in semi-arid regions of western NSW, central Queensland and parts of Western Australia.

"It's unparalleled," he said of the loss.

Pointing to experience in the US, where wolves and coyotes have been reintroduced to rangelands as well as to wild areas, Professor Dickman said: "There are ways to encourage people (to accept reintroduction) where livestock occurs."

Professor Dickman claimed that work in the study area revealed that dingoes are often wrongly blamed for damage to livestock.

The usual culprits, he said, were "town dogs".

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Implant helps pooch keep his jewels

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Implant-helps-pooch-keep-his-jewels/2007/07/12/1183833658323.html

An Australian-designed contraceptive implant that lets male dogs keep their family jewels intact is set to be approved for European pooches.

The implant stops dogs producing sperm and can also be used to calm aggressive behaviour because it halts testosterone production, the manufacturer says.

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According to Professor Dickman, dingoes would help to control feral foxes and cats that he claimed were behind the decrease in numbers and extinction of small animals such as the NSW bilby and species of native mice.

It's obvious that this is a silly idea.  Of course any animal is going to hunt the smallest and most defenceless which of course will be our native animals who haven't got the cunning of a fox or a cat.

A lot of our natives can probably avoid dingoes, but not foxes and cats. Cats on the other hand are an easy target, especially in arid areas. I've seen an old aboriginal woman run one down.

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Does this seem odd to anyone else? This cat jumps onto old people, kills them slowly, then people celebrate it for predicting their death.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Nursing-home-cat-can-sense-death/2007/07/27/1185339204262.html

When Oscar the Cat visits residents of the Steere House Nursing and Rehabilitation Centre in Providence, Rhode Island, the staff jump into action - Oscar can sense within hours when someone is about to die.

In his two years living in Steere's end-stage dementia unit, Oscar has been at the bedside of more than 25 residents shortly before they died, according to Dr David Dosa of Brown University in Providence.

He wrote about Oscar in the New England Journal of Medicine.

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Cat allergy can be cured, says study

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Cat-allergy-can-be-cured-says-study/2007/07/28/1185339293261.html

People who are allergic to cats may not have to get rid of their pets to find relief, if the findings of a new study hold up.

Tolerance to cats can be built up in allergic kids by placing increasing doses of standardised cat dander extract under the tongue, according to Spanish researchers.

Cats are good for swingin.

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I read that article the other day Freediver, although I don't recall seeing the bit about the cat killing the old people - but you have made a good point.

Perhaps the cat is there for that reason as they are known to have smothered babies, so why not elderly dementia patients.

A guy on my street has an overweight cat with diabetes. I think it's cruel to do that to an animal.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Fat-cats-facing-diabetes-risk-study/2007/08/08/1186252742501.html

Overweight cats who spend most of their time on the sofa face a growing risk of developing diabetes, researchers in Scotland said.

Pampered fat cats are three times more likely to develop the potentially fatal condition than cats of a normal weight, according to a study by the University of Edinburgh.

"The lifestyle of cats, just like their owners, is changing," said Professor Danielle Gunn-Moore, from the Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies.

"They are tending to eat too much, gain weight and take less exercise."

The University of NSW has finally decided to deal with the cat plague. Inevitably a bunch of cat lovers have banded together to undermine them, proclaiming all life to be sacred (except of course the native animals killed by the cats). They are releasing cats back onto the campus grounds. Hopefully they can be recaught and dealt with. Other Australian campuses have a wonderful array of native fauna throughout them, protected from suburban dogs and cats wherever possible. Don't let UNSW be overrun by feral pests.

http://www.campuscats.org.au/

Cool. Plenty of little furry friends for Zeke (my cat) to play with.

;D ;D

I used to like cats, but the last few years I have seen them destroy so much wildlife,  not because they're hungry, but because they enjoy hunting.   I view them as a pest now - although I would never be deliberately cruel to one.

Unless you can keep the cat indoors (which is difficult) there needs to be compulsory desexing and registering and heavier penalties for straying.

What are your thoughts on declawing?

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What are your thoughts on declawing

It seems like a cruel practise - although I assume it's done under anaesthetic.  Cats love to climb and scratch their claws on trees, lounges etc.  so it would restrict them quite considerably,  including catching wildlife, which would be the only positive.  A cat couldn't defend itself without claws.   The same goes for debarking dogs - I couldn't do it.  Although desexing is essential, I believe.

Have you had that done to a cat FD?  

Not surgical removal of the entire claw, no.

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Not surgical removal of the entire claw, no

Whatever you did to the cat, I hope it didn't suffer too much.   Hopefully it was only just a good trim.

Declawing cats is bad...like chopping off a human hand.

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Declawing cats is bad...like chopping off a human hand

I agree BK.  Even though I'm always chasing cats out of my garden, I would never hurt any animal deliberately.  I had 2 cats for 17 years, so I have some empathy for them, even though I would never own one again.

Cats use their claws and paws for kneading, patting, playing, climbing and their claws are like fingers.  They wouldn't be capable of much after being declawed - you would be better off putting the cat down.

I've had pet cats at times. I've also put down a lot of feral ones.

Even though Zeke scratches me sometimes I would never consider having him declawed. As mantra said, claws are like cat fingers.

I love my very naughty cat..I could never think of anything so cruel.

Facts about cats:

They have claws

They have tails

They go mow

They eat birds

They have fur

They like eat kibble

They like playing with yarn

Cats are a major problem for aussie wildlife, they should be banned.

All existing 'Pets', should be chipped and desexed, and a period of say, 20 years, allowed for them to die naturally, so as not to break the hearts of kids and little old ladies.

No new cats allowed, all other cats to be declared as vermin.

I saw a 'Feral' in the bush, that was as big as my staffy/heeler cross, they are freakin' unbelievable.
I saw another feral leap from an amazing height, and he just flattened out and took off into the bush, they are just too good a killing machine for our natives to cope with.

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All existing 'Pets', should be chipped and desexed, and a period of say, 20 years, allowed for them to die naturally, so as not to break the hearts of kids and little old ladies.

Even that's too generous.  I've lost all my blue tongue lizards and I've caught 2 large cats stalking and chasing my resident brush turkey.  Many of the native birds have left my garden, which used to be a safe haven for them - but is now a theme park for the local cats.

I've set my dog after the cats,  thrown stones at them (not my usual behaviour), left threatening notes for the owners, whinged to council and now I'm getting a trap - catching them and taking them up to the pound.  

They are one of the most destructive animals we have and need to be banned altogether, unless they're kept inside permanently.

At night you take a drive around the streets and there are cats everywhere stalking some harmless native animal,  I doubt the owners give a second thought to the cruel destruction of our wildlife.  If they did they wouldn't let them outside.

mozzaok and mantra ,
I've had an identical experience.
When my old permaculture garden was up and running, there was countless lizards living in there. At every footstep they would scurry away in the undergrowth. it was magnificant.
Then my ex got a new young cat - within a month there was not one living thing in the whole yard.
Nothing.

I love cats. I have no probs letting my Minnie out and about as she chooses. She is known for stalking, killing and eating sparrows mainly and the occasional mouse. Never known her to catch a native creature, but then, being an Urbanite, humans have already stripped our area of native animals.

She is spade. She is chipped. She is registered and has been this way since a kitten. She's old now, perfectly health except for a bit of arthritis. At 16years, she can still hunt, kill and eat her prey. Not fat at all... but then she was never encouraged to be a lap cat. Can't stand the lap cat... lazy sods they are.

If I lived semi rural, as seems to be the case for most here, I would not own a cat or dog for that matter as both are known to be a nusance to the local flora, fauna and farmers.  

Actually, urban areas are refuges for some native animals. I'm staying a few kilometers from the CBD at the moment and the yard is full of bluetongue lizards and other ones I can't identify. Rural areas are not necessarily more 'valuable' in this regard. For starters, you can spray a lot of toxic chemical in rural areas that you can't use in urban areas.

My cat is also spade and very well fed..she comes in at night always.

Because she is partly feral..she does occasionally catch a bird, but mainly mice..even tho' she has 3 legs she is an excellent hunter/climber still.


I also love my cat...

The word is spayed, not spade. Don't rely too heavily on spell checkers.

Many people seenm to think that cats catch mostly mammals and birds. However, this is more to do with which catches you are more likely to see. Birds leave behind feathers, while cats like to play with mice or other mammals. But if you cut your cat open, you will probably find far more native lizards than anything else. At least, that is what they tend to find in ferals.

Cat torture?

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Why doesn't the RSPCA offer the kittens to a local chinese restaurant? It is an environmentally friendly source of meat.

Queensland cat registration compulsory from July 1

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24971598-3102,00.html

QUEENSLAND'S cat lovers will soon be forced to take responsibility for their moggies - as councils bring in new laws to make registration compulsory.

From July 1 all 11 southeast Queensland councils including Brisbane will make cat owners register their animals with collars and identification tags.

All new cats will also have to be microchipped before they are sold.

RSPCA spokesman Michael Beatty welcomed the move, saying it would help stop tens of thousands of stray cats and kittens being put down each year, but he said more was needed to be done in the future, including mandatory desexing.

"If we can't reunite animals with their owners, they are put to sleep," he said. "Registration can help us prevent this, but desexing cats would save a lot of unwanted kittens being destroyed."

Queensland and the Northern Territory are the only jurisdictions without compulsory registration and identification of cats and dogs.

The latest State Government figures show almost 100,000 were dumped at the RSPCA between 2003 and 2006, of which more than half were destroyed. The problem is so great that the RSPCA has started selling kittens to pet shops to save as many as possible.

Four Queensland councils Logan, Moreton Bay, Townsville and the Gold Coast will this year put desexing of dogs and cats on trial.

Last year Brisbane Lord Mayor Campbell Newman refused to introduce cat registration or de-sexing, but now the council has no choice.

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2008 at 2:24pm:

... But if you cut your cat open, you will probably find far more native lizards than anything else. At least, that is what they tend to find in ferals.

A lot of animals are only injured by cats, by their paws and die from infection later, sometimes much later.

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/831508/shanghai-activists-save-cats-from-plates SHANGHAI ACTIVISTS SAVE CATS FROM PLATES 17:43 AEST Mon Jun 29 2009 2 hours 35 minutes ago Animal activists in Shanghai have rescued 300 cats from a dealer who had bought the allegedly stolen pets for sale to restaurants in southern China, state media says. The activists, acting on a tip from a cat lover, found 22 bamboo cages full of cats in a freight yard, from where they were to be shipped to Guangdong province, the Shanghai Daily reported on Monday. Most of the animals were returned to their owners but three cats were found dead and some had broken legs, the report said. "The cats are abused. They throw the cages on to a truck instead of loading them properly. The cats that survive end up in soups at restaurants," Lai Xiaoyu, an activist involved in Friday night's rescue told the newspaper. Restaurants pay about 50 yuan ($A9.06) a cat, according to the report. Police detained the cat dealer, Yang Baoguo, after he battled dozens of animal lovers who descended on the freight yard to break his cages, the newspaper said. The dealer was released after a few hours without charge because animal protection laws are nonexistent in China, the report said. "There is no law in China saying cats cannot be eaten," police officer Ma Yong was quoted as saying. "Cats are not a protected animal." Yang, who has traded cats for a decade, bought the animals from so-called hunters who trapped the cats in residential areas at night, the report said. Police could not charge him with possessing stolen property because, unlike dogs, a licence is not required for owning a cat in Shanghai, making ownership impossible to prove, the report said. Eating cat meat is a tradition in many parts of China, especially in southern regions, where some restaurants specialise in preparing the dishes, according to Chinese media reports.

Almost forgot, I heard that most stray cats disappeared in Cabramatta in Sydney, here is probably reason why.

http://www.thedrunkenkitty.com/freecat.jpg

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2009 at 12:21pm:

Why doesn't the RSPCA offer the kittens to a local chinese restaurant? It is an environmentally friendly source of meat.

Even cats have their place...............probably China, definitely not Australia.

They could put it into Dog Food, my dogs would have enjoyed that.

I recently discovered a feral (I think) cat under the deck with kittens. I was going to check with the neighbours yesterday then figure out how to get rid of it, but it is gone.

Yes they should be banned completely as pets in Australia...give ten+ years for the current ones to die naturally. Then any that are seen can't possibly be legally owned and should be shot, caught, put down ... whatever.

It should be humane as possible. Killing a cat cruelly or torturing a cat should still recieve extreme punishment. I dislike cats immensely and have no problem with exterminating/iradicating them but would never inflict unnecessary pain.

Good thinking.

Lets ban all cats...oh but hang on...then won't you lot whinge that you're being overrun by rodents?

... wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 10:58am:

Good thinking. Lets ban all cats...oh but hang on...then won't you lot whinge that you're being overrun by rodents?

Who's whinging?...oh but hang on....you believe cats are the dam wall that rodents are currently throwing themselves against?

I still agree with you about the idiocy of bottled water, and the idiots that can't use a tap.

locutius wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 11:14am:

... wrote on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 10:58am: Good thinking. Lets ban all cats...oh but hang on...then won't you lot whinge that you're being overrun by rodents? Who's whinging?...oh but hang on....you believe cats are the dam wall that rodents are currently throwing themselves against? I still agree with you about the idiocy of bottled water, and the idiots that can't use a tap.

My cats have killed a fair few mice/rats....even nabbed a whole litter of 10 or so baby mice.  Those mice would have mutliplied  had they not been taken out...now mutliply the effect my cats have had on the rodent population by a million, to account for ALL cats in the country and thats an awful lotta rodents.

locutius wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 10:53am:

Yes they should be banned completely as pets in Australia...give ten+ years for the current ones to die naturally. Then any that are seen can't possibly be legally owned and should be shot, caught, put down ... whatever. It should be humane as possible. Killing a cat cruelly or torturing a cat should still recieve extreme punishment. I dislike cats immensely and have no problem with exterminating/iradicating them but would never inflict unnecessary pain.

So their use as crab pot bait would be ok as long as they were gassed or shot?  :P

Reminds me of a mother-in-law joke, but it's very bad taste.

How dare you guys complain about cats being here. This is a nation of immigrants, who are you to say that cats are no less Australian than Koalas or Kangaroos? Is their lifestyle less Australian than the Emu or Kangaroo lifestyle??? What does it mean to be an Australian 'native' animal anyway? Where did the Kangaroos come from, huh?!

JC Denton wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:58pm:

How dare you guys complain about cats being here. This is a nation of immigrants, who are you to say that cats are no less Australian than Koalas or Kangaroos? Is their lifestyle less Australian than the Emu or Kangaroo lifestyle??? What does it mean to be an Australian 'native' animal anyway? Where did the Kangaroos come from, huh?!

hahaha...touche!

There is a slight flaw in your analogy. Cats eat native species.

Danish immigrants for example just eat bacon and sausages (stuffed if I know what they contain, but I don't think it's of human origins)

As for Scottish immigrants and haggis - well that doesn't bear thinking about.  ;)

muso wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:05pm:

There is a slight flaw in your analogy. Cats eat native species. Danish immigrants for example just eat bacon and sausages (stuffed if I know what they contain, but I don't think it's of human origins) As for Scottish immigrants and haggis - well that doesn't bear thinking about.  ;)

I am aware that it wasn't entirely apt; I just saw this thread as an opportunity to make a smartarse joke :P

In all seriousness, I've had it with pets. They are a sinkhole of money that I don't see why so many people can shower so much affection on. I think a lot of people are filling a big, deep void in their lives with them.

JC Denton wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:09pm:

I am aware that it wasn't entirely apt; I just saw this thread as an opportunity to make a smartarse joke :P In all seriousness, I've had it with pets. They are a sinkhole of money that I don't see why so many people can shower so much affection on. I think a lot of people are filling a big, deep void in their lives with them.

Smart arse jokes are better than dumb-arse jokes. These forums are great as long as you don't take things too seriously.  ;)

When I worked in the Dubbo abattoir, I was the guy responsible for monitoring the conveyor belt that led to the grinder that made the bones/meat into dog food. The amount of food that would pass through there that was perfectly fine for human consumption (very often pieces of high quality lamb would slip through as well) on a daily basis was incredible.

Seemed fairly superfluous to me, but then again industrial civilization allows for superfluous comforts.

I take my hat off to you. You must be in the minority. Most Australians would not work in an abbatoir. How's your Chinese?

I don't speak any languages other than English and a bit of Armenian/Japanese.

JC Denton wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:32pm:

I don't speak any languages other than English and a bit of Armenian/Japanese.

Well if Dubbo abbatoir is anything like Wagga's, you'd only need English and BAD English..

I just meant that abbatoirs tend to be dominated by Chinese workers these days.

muso wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:37pm:

I just meant that abbatoirs tend to be dominated by Chinese workers these days.

I knew what you meant....

Down here, around the Wagga area, there not though..
Mostly caucasian, and aboriginal with a few italian/greek/middle eastern descent people..

muso wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 2:37pm:

I just meant that abbatoirs tend to be dominated by Chinese workers these days.

Not sure about that.. our Abbatoir was comprised mostly of white people and a handful of Aboriginals. There aren't too many Asians in Dubbo.

They had a Muslim guy who killed the sheep though. It was a good business practice really; it meant they could sell the food with the halal label thus increasing their potential market.

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John Smith wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 7:55pm:

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Cat got your tongue?  8-)

I like cats, especially FLAT ones!


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Old Codger wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 10:29am:

I like cats, especially FLAT ones! OC

How could anyone hurt a pussy?


http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/cats-in-sink.jpg

This says it all...

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The dog is thinking,


LUNCH!

"How could anyone hurt a pussy?'


Not me, i LOVE pussies!!!!!



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