I just had an awesome Dinner.  Roast Pork.

Excellent. I had no dinner last night.

Last roast I did was roast pork, with apple sauce. Was wonderful.
Cut the roast up into 3 pieces before putting in oven to let it cook quicker and evenly.

Roast kanagaroo is my favourite. You can get them pretty cheap at coles. I do it in a casserole dish on a bed of bunya nuts with sweet ptotato and whatever other veges I have. The flavour soaks into the nuts.

I've never tried kangaroo - it looks so dark and bloody, although I have given it to my pets.  It looks nice and lean though.   In fact I've never tried bunya nuts either.  It sounds as though you might like a bushman's diet Freediver - have you any other recipes that are interesting?  

I would have to give the witchety grub a miss though - saw people eating them on Big Brother the other night and could only eat it in desperation if it was euthanased first, marinated and then cooked.

Have you seen my pesto recipe? It also has bunya nuts.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/gardening/basil.html

Kangaroo is very rich. had it once in darwin.

Well Ive tried sea turtle-QLD and also dugong, wombat. porcupine ie:echidna-kangaroo..my dad tried to get me to eat carpet snake..but no...SORRY dad.

Dugong tastes a lot like turtle and turtle- is not that nice..rubbery and no its NOT like chicken. My husband was a game hunter and we fished and worked up around Cooktown and had permission from the local Indigenous pple to hunt these species..they even hepled us spear turtles. Mud crabs Borroloola Community, Roper river,they  are delicious.

The locla home brew..mango wine ,which is drunk warm..will have an immediate effect on your disgetive system ie: sprinting down the beach to the sea whilst your recently eaten meal is running down your legs, exiting from your back passage, sorry about the visuals, this was ,not me mind..twas a fellow diner. Was funny. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Forgot to mention..my dad caught a lung fish in Maryborough..that was not nice, the pink flesh looked good but they didnt tase good. Not to me anyway..

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Well Ive tried sea turtle

You monster :o


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dugong, wombat.

Oh my god :o


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echidna

:'(

Ever eaten whale Oceans?

Ausnat wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 12:13pm:

Quote: Well Ive tried sea turtle You monster :o [quote]dugong, wombat.

Oh my god :o


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echidna

:'(


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AN are you serious?..my husband was a hunter as I said and the local Ind. pple were offering up these delicacies..we tried them simple....it would have been impolite not to..and Im not a monster thank you. :-/

No big deal , they were allowed too hunt these species..we applied for permits etc.

We lived and worked at culling foxes at that time in winter in outback NSW, SA and WA.., not in QLD though, that was a working holiday off the Barrier Reef..we fished to pay for our holiday..ate shark and other reef species, coral trout is very nice..we often ate off the land..no shops in the outback..Simpson desert..outback WA.

Shot a plain turkey once and roasted it in the coals..burnt it to  a crisp..that was a shame. :)


Thats life for some of us..

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 12:13pm:

Ever eaten whale Oceans?

No Freediver..

you?- what it like ?

We hunted crocodile and wild buffaloo to , never tried those though.

Sea turtle- endagered species.
Dugog- on recovery
Echidna and wombat- well its only because im fond of these animals.

you are not a monster. the people who killed them are.
Your hubby should have more sense. He should hunt buffalo and pigs, animals which are bad for the environment.

AN, My husband had permits from the Government..he shot feral animals and as for the endangered species , we had permisiion from the INd. Community. The Goverment does not issue permits for endangred species AN..

We also shot kangaroos..had permits for this too..not endangered..never will be ..pollies sit on theyre fat butts and look for theyre next donut to be  delivered..they dont have a clue.

If there is a market..someone will fill the demand..he was a shooter/fisherman before i met him..and I didnt agree with all that went on.

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he shot feral animals

I applaud him for that.


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as for the endangered species , we had permisiion from the INd. Community.

So i'll blame them then for the extinction.(after the indonesians)


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The Goverment does not issue permits for endangred species AN..

And perhaps they should outlaw the hunting of endangered species by Abo's too.

Ausnat wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 12:25pm:

Sea turtle- endagered species. Dugog- on recovery Echidna and wombat- well its only because im fond of these animals. you are not a monster. the people who killed them are. Your hubby should have more sense. He should hunt buffalo and pigs, animals which are bad for the environment.

he did hunt buffallo and pigs and we didnt hunt dugong and seaturtle ,,once only on a holiday to the Barrier Reef and assisted by INd pple and with permits.


We didnt hurt the population of these animals... he hunted mainly foxes, and yes pigs too and now hes in NZ shooting Red Deer, he actually lives there now..YAY!!. He,s  very experienced, humane and good at what he does.

I'll have to go along with Aussie Nat on this one.  I've seen the way our indigenous people cook their turtles, while they're still alive - and dugongs are almost human.

Obviously some people have to eat these animals as a matter of necessity, but it would be easier to bear if they killed them quickly and humanely first.  There's nothing worse than seeing a live turtle, lizard or snake on the fire.  It may be their culture, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable to be so cruel and you have to wonder whether their ancestors cooked their food alive - as they do in some Asian cultures.

Obviously feral animals have to be killed - but again often these animals are attacked by dogs, poisoned or trapped before they're put out of their misery.  Death is necessary of course, but at least it could be done quickly.

Sorry Oceans - I realise it was your husband's job to be a hunter.    I have spent quite a bit of time in the outback and in the country, but still can't accept the many inhumane methods of slaughter used by those who do it without second thought.

Sounds an exciting life oceans. 1/2 your luck.

he is now your ex ?

mantra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 12:53pm:

I'll have to go along with Aussie Nat on this one.  I've seen the way our indigenous people cook their turtles, while they're still alive - and dugongs are almost human. Obviously some people have to eat these animals as a matter of necessity, but it would be easier to bear if they killed them quickly and humanely first.  There's nothing worse than seeing a live turtle, lizard or snake on the fire.  It may be their culture, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable to be so cruel and you have to wonder whether their ancestors cooked their food alive - as they do in some Asian cultures. Obviously feral animals have to be killed - but again often these animals are attacked by dogs, poisoned or trapped before they're put out of their misery.  Death is necessary of course, but at least it could be done quickly. Sorry Oceans - I realise it was your husband's job to be a hunter.    I have spent quite a bit of time in the outback and in the country, but still can't accept the many inhumane methods of slaughter used by those who do it without second thought.

O bviously mantra and Nat its impossible to go into a whole history re my experinces in this area..but never at any time were inhumane methods used..he was a professionl hunter..thus this is the difference..professional..and I would never allow it any way..

Its the weekend shooters who do it for fun who are the culprits in this way,,ie not being priofessional., that being the operative and key word.

I dont know what you have witnessed Mantra..but I do know we conducted our 'business' with integrity.

You guys all eat pork..lamb..beef..maybe we should start a thread about the barbaric and unhumane practices in iflicted on these animals to get to your dinnerplate...when you eat your pork tonight or your lamb..stop and consider what these poor animals go thru to get there.

I dont think you want to know..It would make your stomach turn..the cruelty and suffering. Abbatiors are houses of death and cruelty.Nothing warm and fuzzy there. :'(



Sorry..but hunting methods are far more humane..its quick and clean.Unlike the way pigs and sheep and beef are treated. We think nothing of picking up a pork roast or a nice leg of lamb do we.?

I think PETA would agree with you there Oceans. They recently launched a campaign promoting whale meat as involving less animal cruelty than factory farming.

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 2:37pm:

I think PETA would agree with you there Oceans. They recently launched a campaign promoting whale meat as involving less animal cruelty than factory farming.

peta does freediver

http://www.chooseveg.com/pigs.asp

This link contains images of 'farmed' pigs...be warned..nasty.

article on sheep live exports etc

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Business/Cruelty-charges-threaten-live-exports/2005/11/10/1131578153158.html?oneclick=true


http://www.savethesheep.com/f-boycottAuWool.asp


Just a few links .

The thing is guys..yes maybe we dont agree with way Ind pple cook theyre food and I never witnessed any cruelty for the record by these pple, but Im making the point we inflict far greater cruelties and enmass..to sheep, pigs, cattle,chickens, fish etc..its goes on and on.

Yet the public will sit up and cry cruelty to an isolated incident which occurs with  far lesser commanality -but turn a blind eye to these animals..slaughtered in theyre thousands every day in this country..Why is that I wonder? Do these animals not have feelings of pain and suffering..they dont have rights..just because they are not protected?

To close to home perhaps?

Will we stop eating them to save them from this cruelty.?mmm I wonder. :-?


Sorry about my rave guys..but this subject is important.

I'd gladly become a vegetarian if they legalised hunting PETA members

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cooked their food alive - as they do in some Asian cultures.

Ive seen them clean a fish while it was still alive, then fry it from the gills back and serve it to some gooks. The fish was still gulping for air.




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You guys all eat pork..lamb..beef..maybe we should start a thread about the barbaric and unhumane practices in iflicted on these animals to get to your dinnerplate...when you eat your pork tonight or your lamb..stop and consider what these poor animals go thru to get there.

They were bred to die as food. they know nothing of freedom like a turtle.


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We think nothing of picking up a pork roast or a nice leg of lamb do we.?

Why? it serves its purpose.

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 2:43pm:

I'd gladly become a vegetarian if they legalised hunting PETA members

no IQ peta arent perfect..I agree..

oceanz wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 2:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 7th, 2007 at 2:37pm: I think PETA would agree with you there Oceans. They recently launched a campaign promoting whale meat as involving less animal cruelty than factory farming. peta does freediver http://www.chooseveg.com/pigs.asp This link contains images of 'farmed' pigs...be warned..nasty. article on sheep live exports etc http://www.smh.com.au/news/Business/Cruelty-charges-threaten-live-exports/2005/11/10/1131578153158.html?oneclick=true http://www.savethesheep.com/f-boycottAuWool.asp Just a few links . The thing is guys..yes maybe we dont agree with way Ind pple cook theyre food and I never witnessed any cruelty for the record by these pple, but Im making the point we inflict far greater cruelties and enmass..to sheep, pigs, cattle,chickens, fish etc..its goes on and on. Yet the public will sit up and cry cruelty to an isolated incident which occurs with  far lesser commanality -but turn a blind eye to these animals..slaughtered in theyre thousands every day in this country..Why is that I wonder? Do these animals not have feelings of pain and suffering..they dont have rights..just because they are not protected? To close to home perhaps? Will we stop eating them to save them from this cruelty.?mmm I wonder. :-? Sorry about my rave guys..but this subject is important.

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Animals die. It's not cruel, it's not pretty but it's necessary.

They were bred to die as food. they know nothing of freedom like a turtle.


so its ok to be unspeakably cruel to an animal bred for consumption Aus?

they have no pain or suffering.?

[quote author=IQSRLOW link=1181129343/15#24 date=1181193062]Animals die. It's not cruel, it's not pretty but it's necessary.


Yes animals die..It IS cruel (in this country)and no its not pretty..but it doesnt have to be cruel..

Why is theyre life and welfare less important than a turtle? Thats my question?

[And perhaps they should outlaw the hunting of endangered species by Abo's too.[/i]


Absolutely Aussie. I agree.

I have no problem Oceans if an animal is killed quickly and humanely - as you say your husband who was a professional hunter, did.

But like you I agree our farming practices leave a lot to be desired.  The breeding of animals for consumption is horrific in some industries.  Australia is slow to implement animal welfare laws and as far as animal export goes, the ALP put a stop to this practice.  When the Liberals got back into power, they could see a lucrative industry and revived it.

Seems as though some people believe that animals feel no pain.  

If everybody is so concerned about this, then why not complain (again) to the government to stop sending live sheep to the middle east. i dont believe they stopped the practice.

Ausnat wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:11pm:

If everybody is so concerned about this, then why not complain (again) to the government to stop sending live sheep to the middle east. i dont believe they stopped the practice.

No they have,nt stopped this practice Aussie and Mantra made some good points about the Liberals reviving it..Steve Irwin was a wonderful advocate for live export issues.


A lady I know a lady  from Queensland who has spent her whole life fighting for the banning of live sheep exports..but the bearucracy surrounding this and self interest groups means she makes very little headway. She does not like Peta. The live export indusrty is very lucrative for the Government

Ill put a link to her site.."People Against Live Exports"..


http://www.livexports.com/

Steve Irwin supported the cattle industry in Australia and called for it's expansion. He opposed the kangaroo harvest, even without a live export issue. He was just another person with wierd taboos about what animals you can and cannot eat.

Petition signed. :)

Aussie says-

'petition signed' ok then - you did good ;)

and Freediver I did mention this is in relation to sheep live exports re Steve..as for advocating anything detrimental to the welfare of animals..cattle or crocs or whatever..Id have to be sceptical about that ..esp. where Steve was concerned.

mantra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:08pm:

I have no problem Oceans if an animal is killed quickly and humanely - as you say your husband who was a professional hunter, did. But like you I agree our farming practices leave a lot to be desired.  The breeding of animals for consumption is horrific in some industries.  Australia is slow to implement animal welfare laws and as far as animal export goes, the ALP put a stop to this practice.  When the Liberals got back into power, they could see a lucrative industry and revived it. Seems as though some people believe that animals feel no pain.

Most people who believe our farming practises need overhauling are so far removed from what farming life entails that they wouldn't know.

In their defence, they are usually willing to pay extra for food that was raised to higher standards, especially with eggs and chicken. Beef isn't such a problem in Australia, but it is overseas.

Which is their prerogative. Niche markets are a valuable part of an economy.

The real problems lie when PETARDS hijack farming practises such as mulesing and portray farmers in a bad light. This perpetuates a false image that sticks in the minds of urban eco-warriors that pontificate from their McMansions in suburbia

How is the image false?

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:42pm:

Which is their prerogative. Niche markets are a valuable part of an economy. The real problems lie when PETARDS hijack farming practises such as mulesing and portray farmers in a bad light. This perpetuates a false image that sticks in the minds of urban eco-warriors that pontificate from their McMansions in suburbia

Do you mean issues IQ or actual practices..

And yes ..how is it false?

Farming practices are ,on the whole, archaic.

They portray the farmers as being cruel by performing mulesing when it achieves the opposite effect on the  percentage of overall loss of livestock and a long drawn out death.

You are basing that on a false dichotomy which the 'urban eco-warriors' do not accept.

They do not accept it because they are so far removed from the way life is in farming

There is nothing inherent to farming that says you have to raise sheep in a hot desert.

There's nothing inherent in farming that says you can't.

So the fact that 'urban eco-warriors' do not understand the way of life is a moot point.

How is it a moot point if 'urban eco-warriors' create the conflict?

Who you blame for starting the conflict does not affect whether the point is moot. The point is moot because it is not the reason why they oppose the practice. Their opposition is not based on ignorance of the situation.

It is based on their ignorance of the complexity of the situations

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:27pm:

mantra wrote on Jun 7th, 2007 at 4:08pm: I have no problem Oceans if an animal is killed quickly and humanely - as you say your husband who was a professional hunter, did. But like you I agree our farming practices leave a lot to be desired.  The breeding of animals for consumption is horrific in some industries.  Australia is slow to implement animal welfare laws and as far as animal export goes, the ALP put a stop to this practice.  When the Liberals got back into power, they could see a lucrative industry and revived it. Seems as though some people believe that animals feel no pain.   Most people who believe our farming practises need overhauling are so far removed from what farming life entails that they wouldn't know.

This is the age of technology and information overload  IQ..there are very few pple who are not aware of issues anywhere in the world on anything at all.

We could hardly miss it..

Australia is not only slow to implement laws re: animal welfare but the laws are in some cases cancelling each other out.These laws are fundamentally flawed and self interest groups. making it worse...the RSPCA included ,impede progress by pandering to Ministerial pressure from whoever is in office at the time., as they rely on these Minsters to provide funds to them to keep going. The RSPCA is a sham.As a genuine anuimal welfare advocate..trying to negotiate this minefield of contradictions is a nightmare.

Especially in relation to the Live Export problem.


Our farming practices are desperately in need of overhauling..as I said they are archaic and cruel and anyone who says its not..needs to open thyre eyes and see whats really going on.

and by the way..what is a 'MOOT"..kinda like a cute fluffy owl?


http://www.muffinnation.com/crackmuffin/baby_owl.jpg

IQ, the situation is only complex if you apply a false dichotomy. If you avoid the false dichotomy it is simple: farm something else instead that is suited to the area.

I realise the point you are trying to make, but that isn't going to happen. Reality rarely has simple answers.

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:42pm:

Which is their prerogative. Niche markets are a valuable part of an economy. The real problems lie when PETARDS hijack farming practises such as mulesing and portray farmers in a bad light. This perpetuates a false image that sticks in the minds of urban eco-warriors that pontificate from their McMansions in suburbia

If this is the response PETA gets from 'hijacking farming paractices '..this is a good thing..But you dont see anything wrong with farming practices IQ..so you would not agree with that statement.

That is not the real problem..the real problem, from the animal welafre perspective, is beuracrats who use the animal welfare issues as a platform to feather their nests in the name of 'Animal Welfare' when in raelity its a front for theyre shady dealings..its very complex, long and protracted..the animals the last consideration by these groups..who siphon off funds for themselves.

Does PETA mean Please Eat The Animals. ;D

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:52pm:

They portray the farmers as being cruel by performing mulesing when it achieves the opposite effect on the  percentage of overall loss of livestock and a long drawn out death.

They portray the farmer as cruel if the farmer is cruel..If the farmer can muells using an anesthetic ie topical and chooses not to then that is cruel.
Arcahic and backward.


Have you ever seen what happens to a sheep who is mutilated thru a bad muells? It get blown by flies and or dies or bleeds to death.So a farmer who can prevent this and doesnt..ought to be prosecuted . I think your trying to say..cruelty is ok as long as the farmer gets his profit and is not too inconvenienced in having to consider the cost involved, if any , to the welfare and comfort of his animals. He is not god.

So called 'eco warriors' as you call them need to jump up and down about this stuff.

Profits should not come before suffering.


Your post makes no sense to me....sorry.

Ausnat wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 9:14pm:

Does PETA mean Please Eat The Animals. ;D

no it means People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals   Aussie.. :-/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals

I like my term better. ;D
I LOVE MEAT!

Most of us do..

But I think we would all like to see that they are treated and farmed humanely ,from farm to abbatiors..

Have you ever seen what happens to a sheep who is mutilated thru a bad muells? It get blown by flies and or dies or bleeds to death.

Do you even understand why mulesing is performed? Do you understand that a farmer does not want his livestock to die nor inflict needless suffering (which is why mulesing came about)?

I think your trying to say..cruelty is ok as long as the farmer gets his profit and is not too inconvenienced in having to consider the cost involved, if any , to the welfare and comfort of his animals. He is not god.  

It is obvious that you have no idea on the relationship a farmer has with his land and livestock. You have no idea about what constitutes good animal husbandry and it certainly doesn't surprise me nor do I care that you can't comprehend specifics behind my posts.

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 9:41pm:

Have you ever seen what happens to a sheep who is mutilated thru a bad muells? It get blown by flies and or dies or bleeds to death. Do you even understand why mulesing is performed? Do you understand that a farmer does not want his livestock to die nor inflict needless suffering (which is why mulesing came about)? I think your trying to say..cruelty is ok as long as the farmer gets his profit and is not too inconvenienced in having to consider the cost involved, if any , to the welfare and comfort of his animals. He is not god.   It is obvious that you have no idea on the relationship a farmer has with his land and livestock. You have no idea about what constitutes good animal husbandry and it certainly doesn't surprise me nor do I care that you can't comprehend specifics behind my posts.

yes I do understand..grew up on stations as kids..sheep stations...I didnt google it.


My arguement is about forward thinking and changing bad farming practices not argueing about and defending retrospectrive and backward farming practices, that are convenient for farmers and bad for animals..are you even up to speed here?

You have never been on station Ill bet.

"Have you ever seen what happens to a sheep who is mutilated thru a bad muells? It get blown by flies and or dies or bleeds to death."

You didnt even answer the question..muelsing came about a very long time ago..to avaid his sheep from being flyblown..wheres the genuis in that ?

So it being 2007 now IQ..why are they still inflicting these cruel practices in this day and age?..for the convenience of farmers..just because something has always been done doesn not mean it should always remain so..where would we be if our doctors were not continually up to speed on the lates that medicine had to offer his patients.

There are better practice developmnets and ideas on the market..but farmers are not picking them up..bottom line ..PROFIT.!!


Can you answer that?..if you cant dont waste time argueing semantics with me. Moot this and moot that...Im interested in new approaches to help the suffering of animals produced for market for our consumption.


I look forward to your researched ie..googled answer in the morning..nite IQ. ;)

I guarantee that I have spent more time dealing with livestock than you ever have

"Have you ever seen what happens to a sheep who is mutilated thru a bad muells? It get blown by flies and or dies or bleeds to death."

You didnt even answer the question..muelsing came about a very long time ago..to avaid his sheep from being flyblown..wheres the genuis in that ?


So the practise of mulesing came up to avoid flystrike at the same time causing it? You are either the biggest idiot on the internet or your claims of spending time on a station was a hobby farm to come to that conclusion

So it being 2007 now IQ..why are they still inflicting these cruel practices in this day and age?..for the convenience of farmers..just because something has always been done doesn not mean it should always remain so..where would we be if our doctors were not continually up to speed on the lates that medicine had to offer his patients.

There are better practice developmnets and ideas on the market..but farmers are not picking them up..bottom line ..PROFIT.!!

Here's an idea. Lets fund an anaesthesiologist for all farms from out of the tax free dollars that come from every idiots donation to fundamentalist activists

[i]So the practise of mulesing came up to avoid flystrike at the same time causing it? You are either the biggest idiot on the internet or your claims of spending time on a station was a hobby farm to come to that conclusion
[/i]
and anotherie

Here's an idea. Lets fund an anaesthesiologist for all farms from out of the tax free dollars that come from every idiots donation to fundamentalist activists

Your ignorance is astounding and emabarrassing actually...ever heard of topical anesthetics, even the spray on type etc..Imean where have you been hiding IQ..under a rock? You were born in the 1800 s?


Now..one more time for the uber dummy...Ill write slowly..muelsing was done in the first instance to prevent flystrike OK.?.still keeping up...? But muellsing executed badly will cause more problems than it solves  ie: blood loss and sometimes death and or infection because of a gaping wound .Not in every case does this happen and even when they have been lacerated and half theyre arse end  lain open like a huge  steak fillet, the pain would be excruciating..Ive seen this and it s sickening. Do you agree with that?

I think ill muells you IQ..see how you like it!!..

Now keep up .. please

Your ignorance is astounding and emabarrassing actually...ever heard of topical anesthetics, even the spray on type etc.

Topical anaesthetics? Talk about ignorance , I won't even bother explaining it to you ::)

But muellsing executed badly will cause more problems than it solves  ie: blood loss and sometimes death and or infection because of a gaping wound

So what you are saying is that you have been around people that have practised mulesing that are incompetent?  Considering the source, I am not surprised.

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 10:53pm:

Your ignorance is astounding and emabarrassing actually...ever heard of topical anesthetics, even the spray on type etc. Topical anaesthetics? Talk about ignorance , I won't even bother explaining it to you ::) But muellsing executed badly will cause more problems than it solves  ie: blood loss and sometimes death and or infection because of a gaping wound So what you are saying is that you have been around people that have practised mulesing that are incompetent?  Considering the source, I am not surprised.

Its obvious you have never been in a shearing shed.

end of discussion...

It is obvious that you have an opinion about everything yet lack any knowledge whatsoever.

...end of discussion

Wow. i never thought that my dinner of roast pork would go for 5 pages. ;D [smiley=laugh.gif]

It wouldn't have...but drama llama is up to her old tricks  ::)

Ausnat - yes, it was THAT good a meal !!   :)

With indigestion so it seems ;D

hahaha, I have grown to like no dinner. whets my appetite for a real breakfast.
Got shark for brekky tomorrow.

Am thinking of a fast this weekend.
Got some coopers red label now though  :)

Nice. ive quit drinkin. :'(

well done ausnat.  Good on you.

Seems to be a genetic disposition I have.  

mmmmm corn soup with ham.... drooooooooooooollllll.

http://www.rspca.org.au/food/overview.asp

RSPCA guidelines re farming practices

This is interesting - both groups claiming victory like this:

Wool industry claims animals rights win

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Wool-industry-claims-animals-rights-win/2007/06/30/1182624214882.html

After years of wrangling, Australia's wool industry has a claimed victory over US animals rights group People for Ethical Treatment of Animals over its campaign to stop the mulesing of sheep.

The Australian wool industry, one of Australia's largest rural exporters with annual global sales of around A$2.5 billion a year, said in a statement on Saturday that it had won an "historic" agreement from PETA to "stop threatening global retailers over the practice of mulesing until December 31, 2010".

PETA had agreed to this, under mediation, in return for the Australian industry body Australian Wool Innovation agreeing to end a legal case brought in the Federal Court of Australia.

But PETA's founder Ingrid Newkirk said the group was still calling for a boycott of Australian wool.

"We continue to tell everybody - shoppers, retailers - please do not buy Australian wool," she told local radio.

AWI described this as "inevitable spin" by PETA.

In January this year pop star Pink apologised to Australians for calling on consumers, during a concert in Paris, to boycott Australian wool over the "sadistic" practice of mulesing.

Pink, whose real name is Alecia Moore, later said she had been misinformed.

Australian actress Toni Collette in 2005 signed onto a PETA anti-mulesing campaign before later apologising.

Mulesing is unique to Australia where hot and humid weather makes sheep particularly vulnerable to severe fly strike. The practice is to be phased out by December, 2010.

'Win for animal rights' over woolgrowers

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Win-for-animal-rights-over-woolgrowers/2007/06/30/1182624211575.html

A US-based animal rights group is claiming a major legal victory over Australian woolgrowers.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) founder Ingrid Newkirk said Australian Wool Innovation (AWI) has abandoned its two-year-old lawsuit against her group and caved in on a number of key issues in PETA's long-running campaign to ban mulesing.

AWI, a not-for-profit company owned by Australian woolgrowers, filed the lawsuit in the federal court in Sydney two years ago over PETA's global boycott campaign of mulesed Australian wool.

"The extraordinary amount of money AWI was pouring into this case must have raised eyebrows in a number of places down on the farm," Newkirk told AAP.

Comment was being sought from AWI.

PETA's lawyer, Fraser Shepherd, of Sydney law firm Gilbert and Tobin, said AWI's decision to drop its lawsuit was "a clear lesson to other industries that it is extremely unwise to try to silence their critics by using heavy-handed litigation, rather than sensible dialogue".

PETA said under the terms of the agreement, AWI withdrew its lawsuit and pledged to fast-track the development of genetic alternatives to mulesing.

PETA said AWI also agreed not to block a new labelling system that informs consumers and retailers if wool used in an item comes from a mulesed sheep.

The sole concession PETA says it will make is to temporarily halt its call for a consumer boycott of specific retailers who sell clothing using Australian wool.

PETA's campaign had influenced retailers including Liz Claiborne, Abercrombie and Fitch, American Eagle, Timberland, Limited Brands and UK-based chains New Look and George to move away from Australian wool.

"Our message is that animal abusers sue PETA at their peril," Newkirk said.

AWI hit back on Saturday, saying it had won a landmark commitment from PETA to stop threatening global retailers over the practice of mulesing until December 31, 2010.

It said the date was significant because it was when the Australian wool industry had agreed to phase out surgical mulesing.

AWI deputy chief Les Targ said Australian woolgrowers had always put the welfare of their sheep first and business had increased in the past year.

"Since the Federal Court case began, PETA's activities have been curbed and demand for Australian Merino wool has grown, unfettered by the influence of the animal rights movement," Mr Targ said in a statement.

"The last twelve months, the value of wool exports has increased by more than $700 million."

I'd mules that b!tch Newkirk in an instant

PLEASE  EAT  THE  ANIMALS ;)

Roast lamb for my dinner tonight.
Will put it on in a few mins. With roast spuds, pumpkin, onions, greens .

A mans work is never done.

Just had lamb chops for lunch, with 'paris' mash - mashed potato and sweetpotato, garlic and thickened cream.

Very offensive posts.

We just had vegetable goulash and brown rice.


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Freediver - never heard of "paris" mash. Sounds good. Done mash with spuds and sweet potato, but not the garlic and thickened cream . mmmmmmmm

mantra - poor veges, they are not safe at your place.
Think of how noble the lamb was, to sacrifice itself like that.
Would be mean of me to NOT accept its sacrifice.
Anyhow, prob won't have dinner tonight, to make up for it. Free range eggs for brekky tomorrow - ok ?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/SA-to-ban-calfroping-at-rodeos/2007/07/04/1183351259943.html

Calf-roping events at rodeos will be banned under proposed law changes in South Australia.

The use of small cattle prods will also be outlawed, while animals weighing less than 200kg will be banned from taking part in rodeos.

Environment and Conservation Minister Gail Gago said the weight limit would effectively prohibit calf-roping events.

"We don't intend to ban rodeos but we want to improve the welfare of all animals taking part," Ms Gago said, adding she hoped the new regulations would be in place by September this year.

The minister also announced $560,000 in funding to the RSPCA to employ two more inspectors.

I had the best of all tonight.......  BANGERS AND MASH 8-)