Dear Oceans,

If a girl refuses to have sex with her boyfriend, even though they're in an exclusive relationship, would it be fair that the guy go off and cheated on her?

Speaking from a long term bitter experience, if she avoids physical contact for some time.
See a divorce lawyer.

Women use this as a weapon against us men.  If we lose our control, we lose big time.
They play the game well.

I would not recommend seeking solace in another womens arms till that relationship is "resolved."
Another woman would be avoiding the real situation and will worsen the situation.

I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.  

1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage.

2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship.

3.  She isn't physically attracted to you.

4.  She doesn't like sex.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 10^th, 2007 at 2:05am:

Dear Oceans, If a girl refuses to have sex with her boyfriend, even though they're in an exclusive relationship, would it be fair that the guy go off and cheated on her?

Donald ,

This question is subjective and depends on the circumstances within certain relationships I would imagine.


There would  be an issue that needs attention to be solved by both of you I would say.

Would it be fair if the guy went off and cheated on his girlfriend? Well only if the relationship has no value to the guy concerned-if his needs arent being met as part of an overall loving relationship, maybe its time he reassessed his wanting to be in the relationship.

Maybe the guy has unwittingly hurt his g/f-easily done as male and female are very different emotionally- she may feel she is undervalued for some reason and this can effect her loving feelings for her partner. If this is the case and she feel she is not is not being heard it will get worse and eventually may lead to a break up.That would be sad of course.

I think Donald communication is the key. There is very little that cant be solved by 2 pple sitting down and honestley letting theyre feelings be known to each other and working together to create a satisfactory outcome so both parties are happy with the outcome.

Females are always complaining that theyre men simply dont really listen and pay attention to problems within a relationship, they see this unwillingness to listen as sign that men dont care enough about them to work it out.And men hate to talk about problems on the other hand-so its a catch 22.


You didnt give much detail in your question, so I hope this helped a bit.

I wouldnt go and sleep with somone else unless youve already decided the relationship is over..
Because if she finds out issues of trust will remain for a very long time.

Cheating could never be "fair."  Two wrongs do not make a right

The cheated upon person is unaware.  There is also the risk of spreading a STD to the unwitting person.

If person A cheats on person B "because" of something person B did, it is person As action.
"A" is saying they are not responsible for their own actions, it was "Bs" fault.
"A" is putting the responsibility on "Bs" shoulders . What nonsense, what a copout.

Whatever "B" did was up to them. Whatever "A" does is up to them.


We don't listen to "womens problems" cause they are never ending.  Be like waiting patiently for the river to stop flowing, all the while encouraging the snows upstream to melt quicker..
That's what your women friends are for .

We are happy to talk about issues in our relationships.
Generally women don't want to hear it as it is is questioning them. and asking for something for us.
Women don't want to hear everything, they just want the good bits.

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We don't listen to "womens problems" cause they are never ending.  Be like waiting patiently for the river to stop flowing, all the while encouraging the snows upstream to melt quicker..

That is so funny sprintcyclist.   ;D

I've always thought it was the other way around - it's the male who complains louder and longer and their disappointments are never ending.

Well, I must admit there is a smidgen of truth in that.   :-[

Just the other night I had a similar response from my next door neighbour for suggesting that her blokes knee injury was prob due to a lack of loving.  poor guy. hahahhaha
She was RIGHT onto me.

Okay... here's an example scenario:

The girl says to the guy... after weeks and weeks of dating, "I only want to have sex with 'someone I love,' and your not quite there yet, it takes time."

Now... in this situation... I think that the guy should be entitled to go off and cheat.  :P


Because I think sex is like a 'reward' for the hard earned efforts of the guy showering her with gifts... and I think refusal of sex is like a punch in the guys face, and will cause a failure in the relationship.


Nothing worse than going without sex.. knowing that you're in a relationship with someone. The girl is basically just on a power trip.


Like Billy Connelly once said... "Girls need to feel loved to have sex... but guys need sex to feel loved."

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and Donald, Billy Connolly was spot on.

maybe this girl sees you as having potential as a long term partner and is testing you, which is no good to you right now, of course ,as you need sex.Maybe you both see your coupling as having different outcomes.

She may be in it for the long haul, women can decide very early on if your 'right' or not, its instinctive.

A note to you, females dont subscribe to the veiw that if a guy spends money on her or not, neccessarly entiltes him to receive a payoff. It cause her to feel as though she is being paid for, and there is no loving intent behind this scenario.Its actually insulting to some women.

If a women is so devasteted by your sexiness and charm , a sexy ,wicked smile will do the trick and wont cost you a cent. It IS subjective as I said..

She is waiting for a depth of feeling to evolve as she obviously needs this to make her first 'encounter ' with you special and memorable. Trust her on this. It means she has a high regard for you and the resultant first sexual encounter wont be a disappointment, thats for sure, unless she is a virgin, in which case this would,nt be her fault.

Donald, you must like this girl for you to have spent money and time with her , but if Im wrong and you want a girl to be more in tune with your needs than her own, then you may have to find a girl who is more willing and who's standards are not as high. You are a  man you have needs ..find a girl more in tune with you ..

She will develop feelings for you that will result in intimacy, she knows this, but wants the time to be right.

Its depends on if YOU are willing to do the 'hard yards' and be patient. You know your limits.If after more time has lapsed and you have resolved nothing-she may be playing with you and you may need decide if you want to go on with it.


Good luck Donald, its a very frustrating situation and I hope it works out soon.

Cheers. ;)

Donald ,

I apolagise for accidentally deleting your post, but it has been preserved in my quote to you-

I will cut and paste it back seperately if you wish.Sorry..Im a cra--ppy moderator.

You hit modify instead of respond didn't you oceans? If you want I can make one of your other profiles the moderator instead. That way this won't happen and you will be just like any other member, but you will have to log out and log in under the other profile to do moderating stuff.

that may work freediver, but as Im not online for another few days, Im at  net cafe at present, I would prefer to leave it to then--so next week ill contact you and we can make the change then? I would like to keep moderating this forum as this is an interest of mine.

Email you next week.

Donald, imho, by "seeing sex as a reward for the hard yards" the guy is putting the woman in complete control of the relationship.
prob, few good woman would be "warmed" by a man who sees things that way.


Last time I was looking for a woman in my life I did not "play by the reward" rules.  
The woman who expected men to shower them with gifts were unimpressed by me.
As i was by their obvious greed and shallowness.
Guess what, I didn't want another blood sucker in my life.
I am NOT ever going to "beg", "buy" or be in any way "manipulated" for loving.
Lovemaking for me is not a quid pro quo thing for me. it is entirely a mutual thing.
Those sort of women who were of that mindset would undoubtly find a man to put them on a pedistal, a bloke she would easily use.
Is that her "fault", or the fault of men that accept/encourage that thing.

Who cares, I don't accept it.

Doesn't everyone else pay?    I have to pay Julia Gillard for one.

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and Donald, Billy Connolly was spot on. maybe this girl sees you as having potential as a long term partner and is testing you, which is no good to you right now, of course ,as you need sex.Maybe you both see your coupling as having different outcomes. She may be in it for the long haul, women can decide very early on if your 'right' or not, its instinctive. A note to you, females dont subscribe to the veiw that if a guy spends money on her or not, neccessarly entiltes him to receive a payoff. It cause her to feel as though she is being paid for, and there is no loving intent behind this scenario.Its actually insulting to some women. If a women is so devasteted by your sexiness and charm , a sexy ,wicked smile will do the trick and wont cost you a cent. It IS subjective as I said.. She is waiting for a depth of feeling to evolve as she obviously needs this to make her first 'encounter ' with you special and memorable. Trust her on this. It means she has a high regard for you and the resultant first sexual encounter wont be a disappointment, thats for sure, unless she is a virgin, in which case this would,nt be her fault. Donald, you must like this girl for you to have spent money and time with her , but if Im wrong and you want a girl to be more in tune with your needs than her own, then you may have to find a girl who is more willing and who's standards are not as high. You are a  man you have needs ..find a girl more in tune with you .. She will develop feelings for you that will result in intimacy, she knows this, but wants the time to be right. Its depends on if YOU are willing to do the 'hard yards' and be patient. You know your limits.If after more time has lapsed and you have resolved nothing-she may be playing with you and you may need decide if you want to go on with it. Good luck Donald, its a very frustrating situation and I hope it works out soon. Cheers. ;)

What makes you think it's me I'm talking about?  :P


Nah.. yeah.. it's me.

The problem is... I have about two other girls that I'm very sure are after me, and I'm very sure they would have a quick fling with me if I snapped my fingers.

But... there's the moral dilemma to think about.

But man... I'm sooo tempted to go off and cheat though. This girl is heavily frustrating to be with. And I'm really starting to hate these kind of girls who 'only do it for love.'  ::)

Well done Donald for being a good guy.
When my marriage was grinding to a long drawn out loveless sexless end I was tempted a few times to cheat. But I never did and am very glad I didn't.
Learnt later that if a 3rd party is involved, the ending of a relationship is normally nastier.
Jealousy etc etc, the 3rd party is often there stirring the pot, consciously or not.
There is more than enough pain going around during that stage without anything to excasibate it.

IMHO, no loving means there is no relationship.  Ask her, or go to counselling. Either moves are honest and seeking resolution (resolution maybe being woken by her tongue !)
Cheating is just going to be detrimental in every way.
Those that will cheat with you will cheat against you.

All the best mate.

A young man needs to feel confident in his sexuality.  It can help in all areas of your life.

Whether you have sex, or not, it should be mutually agreed to.  If she doesn't feel the same way as you, then you will end up becoming frustrated and angry with her.  You are only young, why are you committing yourself to one girl at this stage of your life?

You will hurt her and yourself as well, unless you are honest.  There's no point letting her believe that you are committed to the relationship if the "unresolved" side of you is looking at greener pastures.

If you want to be with other girls - do it now.  You are at the best age for meeting lots of girls and having fun - so if the fun isn't happening, look somewhere else.

This may sound superficial, but if you feel frustrated now and you end up in a long term relationship with this girl - you will feel even worse a year or so down the track.

mantra wrote on May 15^th, 2007 at 9:17pm:

A young man needs to feel confident in his sexuality.  It can help in all areas of your life. Whether you have sex, or not, it should be mutually agreed to.  If she doesn't feel the same way as you, then you will end up becoming frustrated and angry with her.  You are only young, why are you committing yourself to one girl at this stage of your life? You will hurt her and yourself as well, unless you are honest.  There's no point letting her believe that you are committed to the relationship if the "unresolved" side of you is looking at greener pastures. If you want to be with other girls - do it now.  You are at the best age for meeting lots of girls and having fun - so if the fun isn't happening, look somewhere else. This may sound superficial, but if you feel frustrated now and you end up in a long term relationship with this girl - you will feel even worse a year or so down the track.

Mantra,

You make some good points here...

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 15^th, 2007 at 7:42pm:

Quote: and Donald, Billy Connolly was spot on. maybe this girl sees you as having potential as a long term partner and is testing you, which is no good to you right now, of course ,as you need sex.Maybe you both see your coupling as having different outcomes. She may be in it for the long haul, women can decide very early on if your 'right' or not, its instinctive. A note to you, females dont subscribe to the veiw that if a guy spends money on her or not, neccessarly entiltes him to receive a payoff. It cause her to feel as though she is being paid for, and there is no loving intent behind this scenario.Its actually insulting to some women. If a women is so devasteted by your sexiness and charm , a sexy ,wicked smile will do the trick and wont cost you a cent. It IS subjective as I said.. She is waiting for a depth of feeling to evolve as she obviously needs this to make her first 'encounter ' with you special and memorable. Trust her on this. It means she has a high regard for you and the resultant first sexual encounter wont be a disappointment, thats for sure, unless she is a virgin, in which case this would,nt be her fault. Donald, you must like this girl for you to have spent money and time with her , but if Im wrong and you want a girl to be more in tune with your needs than her own, then you may have to find a girl who is more willing and who's standards are not as high. You are a  man you have needs ..find a girl more in tune with you .. She will develop feelings for you that will result in intimacy, she knows this, but wants the time to be right. Its depends on if YOU are willing to do the 'hard yards' and be patient. You know your limits.If after more time has lapsed and you have resolved nothing-she may be playing with you and you may need decide if you want to go on with it. Good luck Donald, its a very frustrating situation and I hope it works out soon. Cheers. ;) What makes you think it's me I'm talking about?  :P Nah.. yeah.. it's me. The problem is... I have about two other girls that I'm very sure are after me, and I'm very sure they would have a quick fling with me if I snapped my fingers. But... there's the moral dilemma to think about. But man... I'm sooo tempted to go off and cheat though. This girl is heavily frustrating to be with. And I'm really starting to hate these kind of girls who 'only do it for love.'  ::)

Well,

its up to you of course. Only you know how you really feel and if it will work for you.

But -there are plenty of girls out there who would love to be your 'mate' Im sure- so dont get fixated with this girl-enjoy pour life and explore all possibilities.

Be true to yourself thats the main thing.

If you do that you cant go wrong.

Haha.

For some reason I knew I'd get a few responses with my last comment.


I guess the most popular answer is... 'be honest with her.' 'There's plenty of other fish in the sea.'


I guess the thing I should do is blackmail her and say, "if I don't get some soon, I'll break up with you."  :P


The question is... should I sleep with other women while still dating her? Or should I just break up with her officially... being honest.


I like hanging out with her, and I enjoy her company, but I can't help but think if we break up she might never talk with me again. I mainly just wanna use my youth while I still have it, and that's 'doing it a lot.'  :P
I respect every girl I date, and I really HATE breaking their hearts.

Tell her the way it is and let her decide what's best for her.

I would thoroughly recommend relationship counselling.
I get my car serviced, why not my relationship.
MUCH better, easier, cheaper to get a neutral trained professional in on a problem.
Much much much much better. Much better. Even better than that.
I'm happy to pay for it for you both. Can direct credit it to a counselling service close to you.

As with my posting "Our hearts" in the spirituality forum, your heart knows what is right.
And cheating ain't right.  
Even this singlet wearing sprintcyclist knows that, in his heart first, then in his mind.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 16^th, 2007 at 6:47pm:

Haha. For some reason I knew I'd get a few responses with my last comment. I guess the most popular answer is... 'be honest with her.' 'There's plenty of other fish in the sea.' I guess the thing I should do is blackmail her and say, "if I don't get some soon, I'll break up with you."  :P The question is... should I sleep with other women while still dating her? Or should I just break up with her officially... being honest. I like hanging out with her, and I enjoy her company, but I can't help but think if we break up she might never talk with me again. I mainly just wanna use my youth while I still have it, and that's 'doing it a lot.'  :P I respect every girl I date, and I really HATE breaking their hearts.

officially, being honest. Thats the best way.

Maybe the guy needs to lift his game and be the man that turns her on, rather than off.
Using any excuse to go root another woman is pretty 'limp' to start with. Why would another woman want a guy who obviously isn't getting his current woman in the mood. Sure sign of a loser.

Maybe he should do Wordles like Aussie? :D
I hear women are coming back from the dead because Aussie is a new man with Wordles.

Jasin wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 4:14pm:

Maybe the guy needs to lift his game and be the man that turns her on, rather than off. Using any excuse to go root another woman is pretty 'limp' to start with. Why would another woman want a guy who obviously isn't getting his current woman in the mood. Sure sign of a loser. Maybe he should do Wordles like Aussie? :D I hear women are coming back from the dead because Aussie is a new man with Wordles.

Christ, this one is from the vaults.

He could leave her if he wants, but cheating is cheating

It could be reality in the US following their supreme court decision to go back to the 1950's.

If the BF was a republican there would be no way that is after all what they have been pushing for so I would say just let them  not have it.

If the only real protection from reproduction is abstinence well that is obviously going to be a popular answer. It was the answer for many in the conservatives 1950's.

mantra wrote on May 10^th, 2007 at 9:18pm:

I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex.

5. She is getting enough somewhere else

6. She prefers her girl friend.

7. She is using sex to control the relationship.

8. All the above / most of the above.

Jasin wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 4:14pm:

Maybe the guy needs to lift his game and be the man that turns her on, rather than off. Using any excuse to go root another woman is pretty 'limp' to start with. Why would another woman want a guy who obviously isn't getting his current woman in the mood. Sure sign of a loser.

Ask Stormy Daniels.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/901/518/7ed.jpeg

Dnarever wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 5:47pm:

mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. 5. She is getting enough somewhere else 6. She prefers her girl friend. 7. She is using sex to control the relationship. 8. All the above / most of the above.

Look, it's not complicated.  Not happy? Tell her you're leaving

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 4:14pm: Maybe the guy needs to lift his game and be the man that turns her on, rather than off. Using any excuse to go root another woman is pretty 'limp' to start with. Why would another woman want a guy who obviously isn't getting his current woman in the mood. Sure sign of a loser. Maybe he should do Wordles like Aussie? :D I hear women are coming back from the dead because Aussie is a new man with Wordles. Christ, this one is from the vaults. He could leave her if he wants, but cheating is cheating

jasion is an expert in cheating, it's why his wife left him. He is the loser he described

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 4:14pm: Maybe the guy needs to lift his game and be the man that turns her on, rather than off. Using any excuse to go root another woman is pretty 'limp' to start with. Why would another woman want a guy who obviously isn't getting his current woman in the mood. Sure sign of a loser. Ask Stormy Daniels. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/901/518/7ed.jpeg

USD 130,000 for 60 seconds of work with a HAPPY ENDING for Donald. Stormy is a keeper!

mantra wrote on May 10^th, 2007 at 9:18pm:

I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex.

... or she is a lesbian.

... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires.

I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it.

Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource.

A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF?

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 9:52pm:

mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource.

My good boomers are smacking stupid.  Amber Heard is a lesbian.  HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 7:23am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 9:52pm: mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource. My good boomers are smacking stupid.  Amber Heard is a lesbian.  HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

Amber Heard was married to a woman called Tasya Van Ree and even used the name Amber Van Ree during their association of at least 4 years.

They split in 2012 after Amber started an association with Depp in 2011 because Amber has a nose for money and media attention from Depp's star power.

Tasya Van Ree has a facial similarity to Johnny Depp in his 20s.


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Amber and Tasya were together for four years – from 2008 to 2012. They were in a domestic partnership from the same year they started dating, reports Mirror UK. Apparently, Amber even changed her last name legally to Van Ree during their courtship.

https://www.nationalworld.com/jpim-static/image/2022/05/18/13/Amber%20Heard%20and%20Tasya%20Van%20Ree.jpg

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 1:11am:

A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF?

Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 15^th, 2007 at 7:42pm:

\ Nah.. yeah.. it's me. The problem is... I have about two other girls that I'm very sure are after me, and I'm very sure they would have a quick fling with me if I snapped my fingers. But... there's the moral dilemma to think about. But man... I'm sooo tempted to go off and cheat though. This girl is heavily frustrating to be with. And I'm really starting to hate these kind of girls who 'only do it for love.'  ::)

At the end of the day you need to think about what sort of person you want to be.  I had some very attractive girls offer me random sex last year.  I chose not to do it because that's not who I want to be.

And yes, it's a lot less messy if you end one before you start another

My overall suggestion though is couples counselling.  Make sure she understands how much sex means to you, before she loses you over it

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 9:46am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 1:11am: A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF? Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots.

Xavier is an information necrophiliac.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 9:52pm:

mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource.

Not another carpet muncher?   :o

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 10:16am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 9:52pm: mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource. Not another carpet muncher?   :o

It's almost certainly bullshit. The start of his thread is the assumption no one is bi

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 10:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 10:16am: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 9:52pm: mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource. Not another carpet muncher?   :o It's almost certainly bullshit. The start of his thread is the assumption no one is bi

It's true:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3615590/Amber-Heard-married-former-love-Tasya-Van-Ree-changed-name.html


New documents have revealed Amber Heard previously considered herself married to her former partner Tasya Van Ree, before she ever tied the knot with Johnny Depp, who she has now filed for divorce from.

While gay marriage was not legal at the time, former couple did everything that would make them as legally close to married as possible, according to The Mirror.

The newspaper reports it has seen legal documents that show the two women viewed themselves as a married couple even if on paper the word was not available to them eight years ago.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 10:18am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 10:17am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 10:16am: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 9:52pm: mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource. Not another carpet muncher?   :o It's almost certainly bullshit. The start of his thread is the assumption no one is bi It's true: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3615590/Amber-Heard-married-former-love-Tasya-Van-Ree-changed-name.html New documents have revealed Amber Heard previously considered herself married to her former partner Tasya Van Ree, before she ever tied the knot with Johnny Depp, who she has now filed for divorce from. While gay marriage was not legal at the time, former couple did everything that would make them as legally close to married as possible, according to The Mirror. The newspaper reports it has seen legal documents that show the two women viewed themselves as a married couple even if on paper the word was not available to them eight years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 10:16am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 9:52pm: mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource. Not another carpet muncher?   :o

Just like you.

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 9:46am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 1:11am: A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF? Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots.

😳

Jasin is a multi id of Larry.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 10:16am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 20th, 2022 at 9:52pm: mantra wrote on May 10th, 2007 at 9:18pm: I'll throw my two cents worth in DT - there could be a few reasons.   1.  She doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 2.  She is using sex as a bait because she wants more out of the relationship. 3.  She isn't physically attracted to you. 4.  She doesn't like sex. ... or she is a lesbian. ... or your wealth is insufficient for her desires. I do know of a guy who married an Asian lesbian who withheld that information from him before and after marriage until one of her girlfriends visited and he was rudely awakened by catching them at it. Amber Heard is a lesbian who uses men as a financial resource. Not another carpet muncher?   :o

Bobby, darling, your position as the foremost carpet muncher is beyond challenge.

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 1:11am:

A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF?

I commented on it and didn't notice.

Yes JaSin does this.

Jason/Lisa does this to get attention.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 11:27am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 9:46am: AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 1:11am: A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF? Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots. 😳

You're the Mod here yes Aussie? You can easily sort this out by banning and/or deleting.

As regards Xavier aka Jason I have no idea who sits in that id (although I have a few people in mind).

The best way forward is to sit down and discuss the situation with your girlfriend, and depending on what's said make your decision as to whether you want to stay in the relationship or not.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 3:15pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 11:27am: Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 9:46am: AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 1:11am: A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF? Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots. 😳 You're the Mod here yes Aussie? You can easily sort this out by banning and/or deleting. As regards Xavier aka Jason I have no idea who sits in that id (although I have a few people in mind).

Is Xavier me? Do tell?

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 9:46am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 1:11am: A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF? Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots.

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AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21^st, 2022 at 11:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 9:46am: AusGeoff wrote on Jun 21st, 2022 at 1:11am: A 15-year-old thread resurrected?    WTF? Xavier (aka a cast of a thousand names) has a fetish for digging up old threads.  He is one of the local idiots.         [smiley=dankk2.gif]

Don't listen to Big Hands Aussie Geoff.
He's an Ex-Lawyer come Cabbie who pins handicap children to trees and is a troll of old who loves to grind topics into the ground with relentless pedantic pointlessness just for arguement's sake. He is now relegated to doing Wordles because no-one much bothers with him these days.
I have had a few names over the years - but unlike Aussie and the other Trolls. I don't hide who I am behind them like they do with their countless 'socks' to deceive others. You will find they make their Socks to get back into the Forum when banned, which they often are.
If I'm a Troll, then its because I troll the Trolls with their own medicine that they find hard to swallow. That's why 'they' hate me.
My name is Xavier. I've been It_is_the_Darkness, Zardoz, JaSin, Vulcan, Mellie (not the real one) and a few more - all upfront admissions as to who I am and not 'Socks' to deceive. That annoys them also.

Digging up old threads?
Sure, I practice Necromancy in bringing back old Threads. Just because they are older, doesn't mean they aren't interesting - especially in a slow week of 'latest'.
But the past gives the best foundation for predicting the future and everyone knows I have the best success rate here. The future is always connected by the past.
Many times, like this one - old Threads do stimulate discussion as we see what has changed over the years to what we thought over what we thought just 10 years ago.
There is nothing wrong with Necromancy (and Futurism) - some just hate it because I do it better than them.

The Trolls hate me doing this because they are afraid I'll bring up their pasts to embarress them.  ;D They always try to 'hide'.  ;)

The 'trolls hate' you because you are a cockhead, plain and simple.

Jasin wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 6:27am:

Digging up old threads? Sure, I practice Necromancy in bringing back old Threads. Just because they are older, doesn't mean they aren't interesting - especially in a slow week of 'latest'. But the past gives the best foundation for predicting the future and everyone knows I have the best success rate here. The future is always connected by the past. Many times, like this one - old Threads do stimulate discussion as we see what has changed over the years to what we thought over what we thought just 10 years ago. There is nothing wrong with Necromancy (and Futurism) - some just hate it because I do it better than them. The Trolls hate me doing this because they are afraid I'll bring up their pasts to embarress them.  ;D They always try to 'hide'.  ;)

And yet you didn't dredge up something political, but a post about men not getting laid.  Did it trigger you?

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 8:31am:

The 'trolls hate' you because you are a cockhead, plain and simple.

Amen