Here's a good one. Do you think we should change the Australian flag?

Explain your reasons, and if possible, post a new Australian flag design which you think is more appropriate.


Personally, I think we should keep our current one. I think a new one would just be tacky. But if I were given a choice, I would choose this flag:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8669/eurekadg5.gif

Your flag is very plain, but not too bad DT.  For some reason the Australian flag is looking pretty tatty these days.  We should have a new flag designed - perhaps encompassing symbols of multiculturalism with a stronger reference to  our indigenous people. ;)

I voted no, however, if it was going to change I would go with the aboriginal flag - very cool.

I went for changing it
Maybe something like this???
How do you get it to stick???
Anyway its an aboriginal flag in the top left quarter and the rest is a dark blue with 8 yellow stars signifying the 6 states and 2 territorys

I think the symbolic star thing has been way overdone in the southern hemisphere. We have compasses these days.

I think a change would add no value - and just make a whole lot of money for printers and flag makers. The current flag aligns well with our current constitution and parliamentary configuration. Also, I am definitely not in favour of putting a minority's group emblem on our flag - no matter how loud they complain.  

Isn't DT's suggestion also a minority emblem? The aboriginal flag represents what used to be the majority in this country.

In any case, it would cease to be a minorty goup emblem and become our national flag.

Well I really would like to see a new flag when we finally become a republic and I would like it based on the southern cross as it really does symbolise our past present and future quite nicely for many aussies. I think the aboriginal flag is very attractive also and to have the two symbols incorporated could work well on both an aesthetic and emotional level and would suit me nicely.

DT, its a good flag mate, i reckon the eureka flag should be our national war flag- Flown into battle by our soldiers, flown at the mast of our naval fleet and painted on the sides of our air craft of the air force. afterall,it was flown in the victorian goldfield battle of the 1850's.

Mantra,mozzaok,freediver- Aboriginal flag..........HELL NO!
That particular flag was only invented back in 1974 for the abo's. am i an abo? NO.
And if people seem to think that the abo's had a nation or even indeed a society they are grossly mistaken. they were a series of tribes,different languages,stone age culture and you know what, they never ever built a single permanent building-they couldnt even invent the bloody wheel!
Im not saying i hate the abo's , no, i respect them.but all of this propaganda that is being crammed down the throats of every one by our government and half casts is just wrong. the truth is being forgotten. Furthermore,they should be intergrating into our society. this is absolutely nessesary. Have any of you ever been to the todd river in alice springs.The abos there walk around unclean, drunk and they go to the dunny right on the footpath-i saw it with my own eyes! ive seen their settlements, rubbish every where,bashed up cars,burnt huts and then... what about the redfern abo's?
GREAT PEOPLE TO LOOK UP TO!
And the multiculturist part of the flag....HELL NO AGAIN.

Anyhow. heres my design ...IF... we become a republic.
I included the coat of arms as it has a couple of points.
It shows all of the states.
The kangaroo and the emu cannot take steps backwards, showing the determination of our nation.
I would prefer it very much though if we retained the current flag. I LOVE IT!

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The aboriginies did establish permanent settlements in Victoria, farming eels.

If you think you could have done better, please explain how you would have set up a farming community in pre-colonial Australia. No cattle, no sheep, no wheat, no rice. Just macadamias, bunya nuts and bogong moths.

Eel farming ay? fascinating.
I still stand by my comments.
Not being a farmer i would'nt know! i would have lived on the coast for the fish and land animals.
But My argument was about their continual insistance that they had a ''country''.and that we ''invaded'' their country.I dont see their flag as having any importance for the history of our NATION.
Also about their living standards. Why wont they go to school and eventually get a job, rather than drinking turps , burning down their government given houses and just sitting around doing nothing.
But heres something nice to report about one. I used to live in brisbane and one day while i was in the city, a full blooded Aboriginal man stepped out of his merc, wearing a nice suit with a briefcase. I said g'day and in perfect english he said how are you? we got to talking and it turned out he is a successful lawer,and a bloody nice bloke! Education mate, Education.
Perhaps the so-called ''stolen generation'' was'nt such a bad thing after all.
I know it isnt nice to be pulled away from your family but would you rather they stay in the dirt,drunk,impoverished and a drain on society or become like that well off man in brisbane.

What do you think of my flag design. it is equal for everyone.

Mantra:

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Your flag is very plain, but not too bad DT.

It ain't 'mine.' Didn't you take Australian history classes mantra?   :P


Mantra:

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We should have a new flag designed - perhaps encompassing symbols of multiculturalism with a stronger reference to  our indigenous people.

:o

You know full well that I'm offended by that remark mantra. Creative insult.  :P

Freediver:

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I voted no, however, if it was going to change I would go with the aboriginal flag - very cool.

:o COOL???

Mozzaok:

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I think the aboriginal flag is very attractive also and to have the two symbols incorporated could work well on both an aesthetic and emotional level and would suit me nicely.

Attractive? :-?

Is this the future of the Australian flag?  ;D

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2322/aboriginalflagyi8.jpg


Dirtysanta:

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I went for changing it Maybe something like this??? How do you get it to stick??? Anyway its an aboriginal flag in the top left quarter and the rest is a dark blue with 8 yellow stars signifying the 6 states and 2 territorys

Refer to thread: http://ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1171900980


AusNat:

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DT, its a good flag mate

Damn straight.  ;)

To me it's our most symbolic flag. It's a symbol for the closest Australia ever came to becoming a Republic in its 200 year history. It represents unity, mateship and rebellion. It was also the first time the southern cross appeared in ANY flag. It represents Australians finally getting a fair go in the gold fields and workplace. It represents pretty much everything this country stands for.

Saying that though, I don't support any change in our flag. That's only if I HAD to change it.

My argument was about their continual insistance that they had a ''country''.and that we ''invaded'' their country.

They had land, which we took.

What do you think of my flag design. it is equal for everyone.

Too much fine detail.

CLASSIC! ;D

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How about this one?

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Perhaps this?

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or even better, THIS!
Do the right thing,
Islam in bin.

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Love that Islamic one Ausnat.  ;)

I kinda like the idea of changing our flag green and gold like you demonstrated. It's more 'Australian colours' than the standard blue, white and red.

Yeh its not bad ay! still, but i want to keep the current one. That abolink flag was awesome! ;D

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That abolink flag was awesome!

Admittedly, I stole the idea off someone else. So I can't take the credit for that one.  :P

It's funny cause it's true though.



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Yeh its not bad ay! still, but i want to keep the current one.

Same. I'm very big on tradition. -Even though Australia's original flag had a red background.

Yeah we have the red ensign, for ships.

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Yeah we have the red ensign, for ships.

Bugger. So it wasn't our original flag? -Always had the impression it was.

Nope, its the flag for ships.
I guess the current flag remains.............. HOORAY!!!!

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*Opens stubbie*  ;D

Hows about this flag...... true to my poem. ;D

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I really love our current flag too...

It would seem strange with any other.

Our flag represents our culture , past and present and many Aussies are attached to it. ::)

Of course if we were to do away with the original flag..The Indigenous flag should be the only rightful flag to take its place.

Its a beautiful flag apart from all it represents. :) :)

But the Indigenous flag only represents them.  - im not abo.
The black is for the people, the red for the earth and then theres the sun.
Only two colours there i can relate to.

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Aus Nat.

thats true..maybe they could modify it and add white as well? and a coat of arms..mmm kind of wouldnt look the same after all I suppose>

Nah. we gotta keep the current one, no matter what.

;D Nice Lebanese flag Aussie Nat. I don't think that should be ours though... maybe they can use it instead.  :P

Nah mate never. unless we are not careful.
That ape on the right in your picture looks hilarious.

''With lighter in my hand,
I stand proud on my Australian land,
To burn the Lebanese flag of pine-
It shall be history, in short time''

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The black is for the people, the red for the earth and then theres the sun.
Only two colours there i can relate to.

I think you are trying to add too much meaning too it. Most European countries got it right - just three horizontal or vertical stripes in different colours. Isn't the German flag the same colours as the aboriginal one anyway? I'm sure you could add whatever meaning you want to them. Like urine, faeces and blood for example. With our current flag, it's not like people navigate by the stars any more anyway. How many Aussies could even point out the southern cross? In the sky that is. And there are plenty of other countries in the southern hemisphere.

DT - you need to come up with a new angry Muslim picture.  The same old - same old - is getting a bit repetitive.   ::)

Aussie N.  - You too with some of yours!

Why don't you make your favourite pic smaller & use it under your names?

We can be original and use different pics, so people don't get bored.

Just a suggestion!  :o

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DT - you need to come up with a new angry Muslim picture.  The same old - same old - is getting a bit repetitive.

Actually Mantra, that 'angry Muslim pic' is in my signature. It's not like I'm posting it individually every single time.  :P

But you're right, it is getting old... I might get rid of it in th following days.

Oops -  sorry - just wondered why it was coming up all the time.  :-[

I think wattle should be our national symbol.

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This is a ripper Aussie Flag...

The coat of arms and beer and meat pie as a unifying symbol!!!! :) :) :)

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This is a ripper Aussie Flag... The coat of arms and beer and meat pie as a unifying symbol!!!!

Ah.... I think I might pass on that one auzgurl.  :o

;D

Auzgurl, just get rid of the ''but we are many'' part and it'd be fine. ;)

no dont change it  ;D